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Ain't that hot a take to have Hagens outside the top 5 anymore!
I suppose not, but I still wouldn’t have Frondell, Eklund, or McQueen over Hagens so I don’t know if this is a shining moment of vindication for you. Especially since you didn’t have Desnoyers, whom I would actually consider over Hagens, in your top-10.
 
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1. Matthew Schaefer
2. Michael Misa
3. Jake O'Brien
4. Victor Eklund
5. Carter Bear
6. Radim Mrtka
7. James Hagens
8. Brady Martin
9. Cole Reschny
10. Porter Martone
11. Anton Frondell
12. Caleb Desnoyers
13. Kashawn Aitchenson
14. Ben Kindel
15. Braeden Cootes
16. Logan Hensler
17. Jackson Smith
18. Cameron Reid
19. Malcolm Spence
20. Justin Carbonneau
21. Roger McQueen
22. Sascha Boumedienne
23. William Moore
24. Blake Fiddler
25. Cullen Potter
26. Filip Ekberg
27. Ivan Ryabkin
28. Milton Gastrin
29. Ethan Czata
30. Will Horcoff
 
1. Matthew Schaefer
2. Michael Misa
3. Jake O'Brien
4. Victor Eklund
5. Carter Bear
6. Radim Mrtka
7. James Hagens
8. Brady Martin
9. Cole Reschny
10. Porter Martone
11. Anton Frondell
12. Caleb Desnoyers
13. Kashawn Aitchenson
14. Ben Kindel
15. Braeden Cootes
16. Logan Hensler
17. Jackson Smith
18. Cameron Reid
19. Malcolm Spence
20. Justin Carbonneau
21. Roger McQueen
22. Sascha Boumedienne
23. William Moore
24. Blake Fiddler
25. Cullen Potter
26. Filip Ekberg
27. Ivan Ryabkin
28. Milton Gastrin
29. Ethan Czata
30. Will Horcoff
What makes you put O'Brien so high?
 
What makes you put O'Brien so high?
The combination of his height, playmaking, stickhandling and quick hands.

I believe he had the highest passing completion rate at 94 percent. And his high danger pass stat was also one of the highest also.

Even though most of his points came on the PP. In the NHL this is not a negative, as most teams seem to struggle score on special teams. If a team was ranked 20th on the PP. And due to one player, that ranking improves to 14th as an example. It could be the difference between out of the playoffs and securing a WC spot.

Comparing O'Brien to Martone. They are both tall, have quick hands and have good playmaking capabilities. But O'Brien is a center, more than 7 months younger and his motor and pace seems like a notch better than Martones. Martones stock seems to be dipping as of late.
 
1. Matthew Schaefer
2. Michael Misa
3. Jake O'Brien
4. Victor Eklund
5. Carter Bear
6. Radim Mrtka
7. James Hagens
8. Brady Martin
9. Cole Reschny
10. Porter Martone
11. Anton Frondell
12. Caleb Desnoyers
13. Kashawn Aitchenson
14. Ben Kindel
15. Braeden Cootes
16. Logan Hensler
17. Jackson Smith
18. Cameron Reid
19. Malcolm Spence
20. Justin Carbonneau
21. Roger McQueen
22. Sascha Boumedienne
23. William Moore
24. Blake Fiddler
25. Cullen Potter
26. Filip Ekberg
27. Ivan Ryabkin
28. Milton Gastrin
29. Ethan Czata
30. Will Horcoff
While I disagree with a lot of your perceptions, I really respect that your list is honest.
 
While I disagree with a lot of your perceptions, I really respect that your list is honest.
The way I ranked my list is

- Pace, quick twitch, gifted hands and ability to process the game quickly
- Motor, two way game, potential
- Size, skating and accomplishments/recency bias

What should stand out from top 10 picks compared to the rest of the draft imo - are exceptional hand eye co-ordination, motor/stamina, decision making and clutch qualities.
 
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The combination of his height, playmaking, stickhandling and quick hands.

I believe he had the highest passing completion rate at 94 percent. And his high danger pass stat was also one of the highest also.

Even though most of his points came on the PP. In the NHL this is not a negative, as most teams seem to struggle score on special teams. If a team was ranked 20th on the PP. And due to one player, that ranking improves to 14th as an example. It could be the difference between out of the playoffs and securing a WC spot.

Comparing O'Brien to Martone. They are both tall, have quick hands and have good playmaking capabilities. But O'Brien is a center, more than 7 months younger and his motor and pace seems like a notch better than Martones. Martones stock seems to be dipping as of late.
I completely respect that, just wanted to hear your opinion on the player since you put him so high.

In my own opinion, not to call you out, he is a PP specialist, who does rely on his teammates alot to rack up his points, which is a player you don't want at 3rd overall. He was also playing on a team that scored an absolute ton of PP goals...which, do you trust necessarily, especially since he wasn't even the one scoring the goals?
 
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I completely respect that, just wanted to hear your opinion on the player since you put him so high.

In my own opinion, not to call you out, he is a PP specialist, who does rely on his teammates alot to rack up his points, which is a player you don't want at 3rd overall. He was also playing on a team that scored an absolute ton of PP goals...which, do you trust necessarily, especially since he wasn't even the one scoring the goals?
I doubt Lardis scores 71 without O'Brien playmaking.

O'Brien also netted 32 goals. He has a good shot and nifty scoring moves. Checkout his shootout goals.

When you say a PP specialist. I'm just not sure why its considered a bad thing. How many teams in the NHL suck on the PP? Most of the bottom teams are no good at it.

O'Brien 5 v 5 could improve as he gains more mass and skating improves.

He is still only 17.
 
1. Matthew Schaefer
2. Michael Misa
3. Jake O'Brien
4. Victor Eklund
5. Carter Bear
6. Radim Mrtka
7. James Hagens
8. Brady Martin
9. Cole Reschny
10. Porter Martone
11. Anton Frondell
12. Caleb Desnoyers
13. Kashawn Aitchenson
14. Ben Kindel
15. Braeden Cootes
16. Logan Hensler
17. Jackson Smith
18. Cameron Reid
19. Malcolm Spence
20. Justin Carbonneau
21. Roger McQueen
22. Sascha Boumedienne
23. William Moore
24. Blake Fiddler
25. Cullen Potter
26. Filip Ekberg
27. Ivan Ryabkin
28. Milton Gastrin
29. Ethan Czata
30. Will Horcoff
Kudos on putting together a creative list...but don't enter any draft picking contests using it ;)
 
The combination of his height, playmaking, stickhandling and quick hands.

I believe he had the highest passing completion rate at 94 percent. And his high danger pass stat was also one of the highest also.

Even though most of his points came on the PP. In the NHL this is not a negative, as most teams seem to struggle score on special teams. If a team was ranked 20th on the PP. And due to one player, that ranking improves to 14th as an example. It could be the difference between out of the playoffs and securing a WC spot.

Comparing O'Brien to Martone. They are both tall, have quick hands and have good playmaking capabilities. But O'Brien is a center, more than 7 months younger and his motor and pace seems like a notch better than Martones. Martones stock seems to be dipping as of late.
It's dipping because the blind analysts called him a power forward and compared his game to the Tkachuks but eventually the analysts that actually do watch these prospects said hmmmm, he's far from a power forward and quite soft for his size.

Suddenly he went from a Matthew Tkachuk to a Bobby Ryan type
 
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1. Michael Misa
2. Matthew Schaefer
3. James Hagens
4. Caleb Desnoyers
5. Victor Eklund
6. Porter Martone
7. Anton Frondell
8. Jake O'Brien
9. Jackson Smith
10. Roger McQueen
11. Radim Mrtka
12. Brady Martin
13. Lynden Lakovic
14. Kashawn Aitcheson
15. Logan Hensler
 
Based on a few games/videos I've watched this year and reading a lot of scouting reports from different agencies/organizations.
  1. Matthew Schaefer
  2. Michael Misa
  3. Anton Frondell
  4. Jake O'Brien
  5. Radim Mrtka
  6. Victor Eklund
  7. James Hagens
  8. Caleb Desnoyers
  9. Porter Martone
  10. Brady Martin
  11. Jack Nesbitt
  12. Cole Reschny
  13. Kashawn Aitchenson
  14. Logan Hensler
  15. Jackson Smith
  16. Carter Bear
  17. Vaclav Nestrasil
  18. Blake Fiddler
  19. Braeden Cootes
  20. Roger McQueen
  21. Cameron Reid
  22. Lynden Lakovic
  23. Justin Carbonneau
  24. Ben Kindel
  25. Ivan Ryabkin
  26. Jack Murtagh
  27. Sascha Boumedienne
  28. Cullen Potter
  29. Milton Gastrin
  30. Malcolm Spence
  31. Ryker Lee
  32. Bill Zonnon
 
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1. Matthew Schaefer
2. Michael Misa
3. James Hagens
4. Porter Martone
5. Caleb Desnoyers
6. Anton Frondell
7. Victor Eklund
8. Roger McQueen
9. Jake O'Brien
10. Radim Mrtka
11. Cole Reschny
12. Lynden Lakovic
13. Sascha Boumedienne
14. Kashawn Aitcheson
15. Carter Bear
16. Brady Martin
17. Jackson Smith
18. Ivan Ryabkin
19. Braeden Cootes
20. Cullen Potter
21. Justin Carbonneau
22. Malcolm Spence
23. Logan Hensler
24. Cameron Reid
25. Jack Murtagh
26. Ryker Lee
27. Ben Kindel
28. Blake Fiddler
29. Bill Zonnon
30. Jack Nesbitt
31. Milton Gastrin
32. Alexander Zharovsky
1. Matthew Schaefer
2. Michael Misa
3. James Hagens
4. Caleb Desnoyers
5. Roger McQueen
6. Jake O'Brien
7. Brady Martin
8. Victor Eklund
9. Porter Martone
10. Radim Mrtka
11. Cole Reschny
12. Anton Frondell
13. Lynden Lakovic
14. Justin Carbonneau
15. Jackson Smith
16. Kashawn Aitcheson
17. Carter Bear
18. Sascha Boumedienne
19. Logan Hensler
20. Ivan Ryabkin
21. Cullen Potter
22. Malcolm Spence
23. Braeden Cootes
24. Ben Kindel
25. Cameron Reid
26. Jack Murtagh
27. Vaclav Nestrasil
28. Blake Fiddler
29. Bill Zonnon
30. Jack Nesbitt
31. Milton Gastrin
32. Alexander Zharovsky
 
My final top 50:

1. Schaefer
2. Misa

3. Desnoyers
4. Martin
5. Martone
6. Hagens
7. Smith
8. Mrtka
9. Eklund
10. Frondell
11. O’Brien
12. McQueen
13. Carbonneau

14. Reid
15. Reschny
16. Nesbitt
17. Fiddler
18. Bear
19. Gastrin
20. Hensler
21. Aitcheson
22. Spence

23. Ihs Wozniak
24. Nestrasil
25. Zonnon
26. McKinney
27. Boumedienne
28. Horcoff
29. Nilson
30. Lakovic
31. Brzustewicz
32. Cootes
33. Kindel
34. West
35. Potter
36. Murtagh

37. Prokhorov
38. Moore
39. Limatov
40. Paupenakis
41. Genborg
42. Ryabkin
43. Lee
44. Gard
45. Griffin
46. Agafonov
47. Hillstrom
48. Psenicka
49. Czata
50. Stockselius
 
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1. Matthew Schaefer
2. Michael Misa
3. Jake O'Brien
4. Victor Eklund
5. Carter Bear
6. Radim Mrtka
7. James Hagens
8. Brady Martin
9. Cole Reschny
10. Porter Martone
11. Anton Frondell
12. Caleb Desnoyers
13. Kashawn Aitchenson
14. Ben Kindel
15. Braeden Cootes
16. Logan Hensler
17. Jackson Smith
18. Cameron Reid
19. Malcolm Spence
20. Justin Carbonneau
21. Roger McQueen
22. Sascha Boumedienne
23. William Moore
24. Blake Fiddler
25. Cullen Potter
26. Filip Ekberg
27. Ivan Ryabkin
28. Milton Gastrin
29. Ethan Czata
30. Will Horcoff

Lakovic outside of the 1st round?
 
My Final Top-32

LD - Schaefer 1
C - Misa 2

C - Hagens 3
C - Desnoyers 4
RW - Martone 5
C - Frondell 6

C - Martin 7
RD - Mrtka 8
C - O'Brien 9
LW - Eklund 10
C - McQueen 11
LD - Smith 12

LD - Aitchison 13
C - Cootes 14
RW - Kindel 15
LD - Boumedienne 16
LW - Bear 17
RW - Carbonneau 18
C - Reschny 19
LW - Lakovic 20

LW - Spence 21
RD - Hensler 22
RW - Behm 23
C - Gastrin 24
LW - Zonnon 25
LW - Potter 26
C - Moore - 27
RD - Fiddler 28
C - McKinney 29
G - Ravensbergen 30
RW - Ihs-Wozniak 31
RW - Mooney 32

HM:
LW - Stockselius
C - Katzin
LW - Westergard
RW - Schmidt
C - Ryabkin
 
Anyone who doesn't have Mcqueen inside the top 10 should be banned from posting. If he was healthy all season he would be in 1st overall contention.
 
Anyone who doesn't have Mcqueen inside the top 10 should be banned from posting. If he was healthy all season he would be in 1st overall contention.
Being healthy is half the battle.

In the playoffs, it doesn't matter if a player is a wizard if he can't function on the ice.

Yes Mcqueen size plus skills is tantalizing. But nothing is certain due to that health scare he had and re-aggravated during the OHL playoffs.

If it makes you happy, if he was healthy, put up 100 points and scored a point per game in the playoffs. He would be a shoe in - top 3 pick.

But these are a lot of what IFs. I wish the kid goodluck.
 
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