Post-Wrestlemania 32 Thread: The cliff is that way.

[M.C.G. 31]

Wrestlemania 31: Daniel Bryan leaves as IC champion; John Cena leaves as U.S. champion
Wrestlemania 32: Zack Ryder leaves as IC champion; Kalisto leaves as U.S. champion

lmao

 

[Tabarouette]

 

[Pinkfloyd]

I don't agree with Styles losing last night. I guess they're going for a best-of-5 or even 7, but I'm over these matches. Jericho just can't go at the pace AJ can anymore. AJ slowly down as much as he has is severely limiting what he can do.

I don't have much of a problem with AJ losing that match. It's not my first choice but I can at least see some good coming from it even though it's not the best option. If it's best of five and you have AJ go over the next show, it's nonsense. I think you put AJ over at Payback then you have another rematch at Extreme Rules and have AJ win that too. That ends the feud and opens AJ up to compete at Money in the Bank while making him the clear winner of the feud. It's absolutely stupid that they don't use the grandest stage of them all to put over new and popular talent.

The Zack Ryder title win is the most bothersome of them all to me. The guy wasn't even scheduled to be in that match until Neville got hurt and you give him the title? Stupid. With how poorly that was thrown together, much like last year's carbon copy, the only ones that made sense that would've benefitted the winner, the champion coming in, and the title as well was KO and Zayn. All the stuff about them having a good feud without the title is true but it's better with the title and better than ANYTHING Zack Ryder can do with the title. Think about this...where does it go from here with Ryder having the belt? A rematch with KO. Either KO wins that and it's all for nothing or KO loses to freaking Zack Ryder. There is no amount of interference from Sami Zayn that will make up for that being an embarrassment that KO should not endure yet even as a heel.

That doesn't even get into whether or not Ryder even deserved that win...imo, he didn't. If he had won that at any PPV after Mania and before the Rumble that wasn't Summerslam, I would've been fine with it. That stage should've showcased the Zayn/KO feud more than anything else because while we know it will be great, the people at home that watch Mania mostly do not and it needed to be highlighted and it needed to be the focus and it needed to be the hook to get people to watch tomorrow and the coming weeks.

 

[Rexy]

Yes, working with the rock at wrestlemania even if for a brief time while you are so injured they won't even put you in the battle royal, is way worse than just being off the show entirely in fear of "burial"

I'm sure he agrees with you.

No, being pinned in 3 seconds is going to make their star shine brighter.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

They had chants on the big screen last night that they wanted fans to do

 

[Balls Mahoney]

You know, I think I hate this show more now that I've slept on it than I did last night.

**** you WWE.

 

[Virtanen18]

What was the old WM record for quickest match? Sheamus and DB?

 

[M.C.G. 31]

"Dean looked like Zack Ryder. You cheer for him, but he doesn't win." - Dave Meltzer

Meltzer spoke about Ambrose and Styles being the two most popular full-time guys on the babyface roster. "Styles was just another guy who lost to Jericho, great worker... and Dean didn't even look like a great worker, he just looked like a guy who came in to lose to Brock Lesnar to a match." - Meltzer

He said it wasn't even a big Lesnar match against a top guy, it was just a Lesnar showcase match.

 

[UnrealMachine]

What was the old WM record for quickest match? Sheamus and DB?

King Kong Bundy vs Special Delivery Jones @ WM1. "Officially" 9 seconds, I think.

 

[Dr Pepper]

"Dean looked like Zack Ryder. You cheer for him, but he doesn't win." - Dave Meltzer

Meltzer spoke about Ambrose and Styles being the two most popular full-time guys on the babyface roster. "Styles was just another guy who lost to Jericho, great worker... and Dean didn't even look like a great worker, he just looked like a guy who came in to lose to Brock Lesnar to a match." - Meltzer

He said it wasn't even a big Lesnar match against a top guy, it was just a Lesnar showcase match.

But.....wait, hold on a sec.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

"This (Lesnar/Ambrose) was like those Brock Lesnar WWE Network showcase matches." - Meltzer & Alvarez

talked about how Punk had a great match with Lesnar and Ambrose didn't.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

So, is anyone else sick of nothing but suplexes from Lesnar yet? I've been complaining about that for awhile. The WWE of course tries to run with the whole suplex city thing and ruins it, like they normally do.

Last time I complained it seemed like people still enjoyed it.

 

[GKJ]

AJ and Jericho already had 4. I don't need or want a 5th, please move on to something else, AJ

 

[BonMorrison]

Yup, I complained about it last night. Brock was one of the best wrestlers in the company and now he's been watered down to a novelty.

 

[M.C.G. 31]

I've complained about "suplex city" for a while now.

 

[WinterEmpire]

You know, I think I hate this show more now that I've slept on it than I did last night.

**** you WWE.

Agreed, I think I'm going to take a break from main roster WWE for a long while. I just can't waste my time on this anymore. With all the signs that they really are going with Roman as the the baby face headliner for years to come I'll probably come back to watching it once Vince dies.

NXT and LU from time to time are enough for me, and they tell a hell of a lot better story in hour a week than WWE does with 5+.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

"This (Lesnar/Ambrose) was like those Brock Lesnar WWE Network showcase matches." - Meltzer & Alvarez

talked about how Punk had a great match with Lesnar and Ambrose didn't.

Not surprising honestly, shows what Vince really thinks of Dean.

 

[Balls Mahoney]

So not sick of Lesnar yet. I'm sick of how he's being booked. But Lesnar murdering people and Suplex City is still the main reason WWE is getting my $10 a month.

The way he's being booked is utterly stupid though. He's indisputably the top guy on the roster and he can make a legitimate claim to be the baddest man on the planet. So why is he not holding the title or always threatening to win the title?

When he went on that run of murdering people from WM 30 to WM 31, that was one of my favorite runs in wrestling since Austin/McMahon. I don't know what we're watching anymore.

 

[PBandJ]

So not sick of Lesnar yet. I'm sick of how he's being booked. But Lesnar murdering people and Suplex City is still the main reason WWE is getting my $10 a month.

The way he's being booked is utterly stupid though. He's indisputably the top guy on the roster and he can make a legitimate claim to be the baddest man on the planet. So why is he not holding the title or always threatening to win the title?

When he went on that run of murdering people from WM 30 to WM 31, that was one of my favorite runs in wrestling since Austin/McMahon. I don't know what we're watching anymore.

Gotta make Roman look strong.

 

[PeterSidorkiewicz]

Yup, I complained about it last night. Brock was one of the best wrestlers in the company and now he's been watered down to a novelty.

That's a perfect word for it. Novelty.

 

[Virtanen18]

King Kong Bundy vs Special Delivery Jones @ WM1. "Officially" 9 seconds, I think.

Ah. I thought maybe someone had the record that they didn't want to hold a record. But I guess it was all about breaking them last night.

 

[Balls Mahoney]

Gotta make Roman look strong.

Everything is so wrong. Not only do we have to endure this tubby talentless pretty ***** Vince is obsessed with but they're wasting the tail end of Lesnar's prime.

 

[Blitzkrug]

Part of me wonders what landscape would be if (i can't remember who suggested it) they outright left the belt on Lesnar up until now. Build him as the most destructive force to ever exist in Wrestling by letting him hold on to the strap from when he won at Summerslam. Imagine the star you could create that. Hell, have Brock run everybody over on the way there and settle on a guy to be the one. Would that be any worse than what we got in the year since he lost the title to Rollins?

 

[Balls Mahoney]

The sad thing is last night was WWE's biggest gate all-time smashing the last one by over $5 million dollars. So in Vince's head he was justified all along and forever Reigns can say he was the biggest draw in WWE.

 

[Balls Mahoney]

Part of me wonders what landscape would be if (i can't remember who suggested it) they outright left the belt on Lesnar up until now. Build him as the most destructive force to ever exist in Wrestling by letting him hold on to the strap from when he won at Summerslam. Imagine the star you could create that. Hell, have Brock run everybody over on the way there and settle on a guy to be the one. Would that be any worse than what we got in the year since he lost the title to Rollins?

I agree completely, I said the same thing last night. There was no reason to take the belt off him. Imagine all the hype each time he defended the belt on PPV. It would have been huge, like Mike Tyson fights in his prime. That was originally their plan from what I remember. But then Vince had to develop a crush on Roman and here we are.

I would have loved a two year Lesnar run with maybe a short Rollins run in the middle of it to break it up.