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Poll - Would You Trade Matt Savoie for John Gibson?

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Would you trade Matt Savoie for John Gibson to shore up our goaltending issues?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 5.2%

  • No

    Votes: 62 80.5%

  • Undecided/Not Sure

    Votes: 4 5.2%

  • Yes, But Only If Anaheim Adds Some Value

    Votes: 7 9.1%
  • Total voters
    77
belair said:
The Oilers get nowhere near the Finals last season without that JHB line or the PK. I'm not shocked to see you gloss over it though.

The Oilers go nowhere if their bottom six gets caved.
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He is massively overpaid for this season and at an age where he is likely in a steep decline. That was a bad bet on the Oilers part, but so was their entire off-season, every bet they made last summer has blown up in their face.

And the Oilers PK was still good in the playoffs last year even when Henrique was injured (which he was for a big stretch of the post season). I don't attribute that all to him or one line combination. It's more like Coffey/Knob's system was operating at a really high level because the group had full buy in to it and months and months to work on it.
 
belair said:
Henrique and RNH are valuable role players who impact multiple areas of the game. I think Henrique still has another gear, but as us, he's a guy who doesn't give up a lot 5v5. That's valuable considering he plays almost entirely away from scoring lines.

RV is the guy I could see us moving on from at the deadline simply because we haven't seen the fireworks from him that were expected.
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We have 4 more years of RNH, at 5M he has to bring more than ‘valuable role player”.

Henrique is invisible for the most part, at 35 his value is what exactly?

RV, atleast he tries, he goes to the dirty areas, gets creamed, gets up and then takes a stupid penalty. Rinse and repeat.

These 3 cost north of 12M, what a waste.
 
We need a goalie but I would look elsewhere. This would be a desperate trade to send MS for Gibson.

That’s said I’m not attached to Savoie, we can and should move him if it makes this team better in the near term need a player that’s more than a rental).

I don’t know how often it needs to be said but this team is in a win now era. No one gives a damn how bare the cupboards are when Leon and 97 are in the final years of their contracts. At that point, they may not even be here.
 
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Maybe if Ducks retain 50%. Would rather take a chance on Vejmelka. Do worry a lot that age and injuries have slowed Gibson down.
 
oXo Cube said:
Henrique is +6 5v5 and has the lowest GA/60 of any player on the team by a decent margin. He's not sexy and he's definitely a bit pricey for the role but he's done his job IMO.

RNH supporters are just blind homers at this point.
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You’re bang on with Henrique. I do think RNH has lost a step this season.
 
No. I get that goaltending is a problem, but Savoie brings much needed youth to the lineup.

I might be tempted if Gibson were more of a sure thing. I don't think goalies are voodoo but I do think that it is unclear if success with one team would translate elsewhere. The ideal is to be able to try a player out before committing to them. But even then I might say no.

Heck that's not just with goalies. Look at Rantanen's struggles

But, we just lost Holloway and McLeod. We can't keep bleeding youth like this. It's not just for the future. We've turned into an old team, which can hurt us in the short term too
 
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Messrules11 said:
We have 4 more years of RNH, at 5M he has to bring more than ‘valuable role player”.
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He's on pace for a 23 goal, 54 point season. So yeah, there's some regression there, and I'd like for him to be a bit more assertive 5v5, but ultimately that's not way out of line with what he was before. And it's decent enough value at 5.125 million or whatever his cap is.
 
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Stoneman89 said:
Isn't Gibson injured? again?
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Even if he isn't, we have to face up to the fact that apart from Mc-D and Drai, every other forward is:

a-- getting long in the tooth and will be out of the league within a few years (won't bother with names)
b--players with modest abilities who can fill a role but can't really score (won't bother with names)
c--free agent acquisitions who have been disappointments (won't bother with names)

--at some point you have to ask what the future will be when inevitably, Mc-D and Drai start to decline.
 
Gibson has negative value at a full cap hit. Even if the Ducks retain we’d be doing them a favor taking him off their hands. The market for Gibson is pretty much just us and if they don’t like our offer then they can pay him almost 6 million to backup Dokstal while their still rebuilding.
 
Messrules11 said:
We have 4 more years of RNH, at 5M he has to bring more than ‘valuable role player”.

Henrique is invisible for the most part, at 35 his value is what exactly?

RV, atleast he tries, he goes to the dirty areas, gets creamed, gets up and then takes a stupid penalty. Rinse and repeat.

These 3 cost north of 12M, what a waste.
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RNH has to bring more, but I don't see it. Keep him at 3C and add a winger to replace him
 
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Anaheim will take a generic 1st IMO.

They literally traded Cam Fowler, who is still a half decent player for basically nothing so they could shed salary for Trouba and retained a bunch of money on Fowler to boot.

They have an internal budget, I doubt they want to pay $11+ million on two goalies after signing Dostal. Finding another team that will take a big chunk of Gibson's money means effectively they will find another team to pay for $3-4 million of Dostal's salary for a couple of years. And if they can score any 1st round pick on top of that?

That likely in itself has a lot of appeal to a Ducks team that probably has to country every penny to management ... no shame in that whatsoever, that's just how things go when you don't have any playoff revenue coming in and have low ticket prices.
 
No way, he's the best prospect we've had in years. He has much higher value than gibson, who has an expensive contract and is getting older. In fact anaheim will probably have to retain salary in any trade involving Gibson, and maybe even add pieces to get rid of the contract.
 
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Tobias Kahun said:
Its almost like having depth through the lineup and having McDrai being able to elevate lesser players is a good thing.

Its a thing of the past where you just stack all the best players on a line.
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I see you’re still full of shit. Who exactly is getting elevated here, Podz, Kap, RV, these players are a drag on McDrai and should be nowhere near a top 6

Too bad little Nugey is such a failure for 5M.
 
belair said:
The Oilers get nowhere near the Finals last season without that JHB line or the PK. I'm not shocked to see you gloss over it though.

The Oilers go nowhere if their bottom six gets caved.
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That was last year, not this year. Yes, the PK was historically good in the playoffs last Spring, but can they replicate that success? Was it sustainable? As it currently stands the bottom six in Edmonton is not doing enough, and that includes Henrique, and especially Janmark... Corey Perry has been a bright spot though so that's a nice surprise lol
 
Messrules11 said:
I see you’re still full of shit. Who exactly is getting elevated here, Podz, Kap, RV, these players are a drag on McDrai and should be nowhere near a top 6

Too bad little Nugey is such a failure for 5M.
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All those players you named are not really top 6 guys but I have to wonder why J. Skinner hasn't seen more time in the top 6.

For all of our complaining about him, he does pot the odd goal.

When he's on the ice you can see that he's innovative and at least a threat to score. He won't light it up big time but he's a proven nhl goal scorer for a reason.

Anyway, let's hope they don't trade away Savoie and then wonder why they didn't get more in return except for an older player who is in the last quarter of his career.
 
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MoontoScott said:
All those players you named are not really top 6 guys but I have to wonder why J. Skinner hasn't seen more time in the top 6.

For all of our complaining about him, he does pot the odd goal.

When he's on the ice you can see that he's innovative and at least a threat to score. He won't light it up big time but he's a proven nhl goal scorer for a reason.

Anyway, let's hope they don't trade away Savoie and then wonder why they didn't get more in return except for an older player who is in the last quarter of his career.
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No they’re not top 6 guys, the poster claimed McDrai elevated ‘lesser players’. Guys like Arvi and Podz fit that description but their numbers are still junk. Kap with McD yesterday was laughable and that line went -3
 
MoontoScott said:
All those players you named are not really top 6 guys but I have to wonder why J. Skinner hasn't seen more time in the top 6.

For all of our complaining about him, he does pot the odd goal.

When he's on the ice you can see that he's innovative and at least a threat to score. He won't light it up big time but he's a proven nhl goal scorer for a reason.

Anyway, let's hope they don't trade away Savoie and then wonder why they didn't get more in return except for an older player who is in the last quarter of his career.
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I agree with your take on J Skinner completely. Knob is being a knob
 
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