Poll: Will David Savard fetch a first at the TDL, especially if we retain 50%?

[Catanddogguitarrr]

Lol, I'm not sure if this is a compliment, but I'll take it regardless!

That was a compliment and not written under the influence of substances, lol.
Cheers !

 

[HuGort]

Depends on how many dmen are available at the deadline and how desperate the buyer is.

Generally, I'd say he would fetch a 2nd at best but the market is weird sometimes.

Big defensive defense men usually go for over value near deadline day

 

[malcb33]

I definitely wouldn't be a buyer, but I wouldn't necessarily sabotage a roster that was in haunt for playoff spot. Battling for something concrete is an important part of the development a team must go through.

I'd definitely go ahead and try to flip Monahan (shorter term asset) for a blue chip prospect (longer term asset),rather than just picks, however. Remove a strength, but add another at the same time.

I'm certainly not saying to rip the whole thing down and trade core players, but I do believe you move non-pieces that give you a good value return based on the market (E.G. not many vet C's are available, so Monahan fetches a high price).

I understand the value in letting the team compete for a playoff spot, but I don't think that should take priority over building for the future this year.

If Hugo chooses not the sell and lets the team compete, he knows he's going to cut his plan short as he won't be able to maximize his rebuild. Once the high-end talent in the pipeline starts to arrive and establishes themselves in the NHL over the next few seasons, he won't have the same opportunity as they will need to start striving for the playoffs (start pushing, not make) to build the winning culture.

If he doesn't hit now, we could end up in the same bubble-tier mediocrity for a while, which IMO is the worst outcome.

 

[Sorinth]

If Hugo chooses not the sell and lets the team compete, he knows he's going to cut his plan short as he won't be able to maximize his rebuild. Once the high-end talent in the pipeline starts to arrive and establishes themselves in the NHL over the next few seasons, he won't have the same opportunity as they will need to start striving for the playoffs (start pushing, not make) to build the winning culture.

It's probably going to be difficult to tell whether we choose not to sell, or whether other teams just weren't all that interested in what we have to sell.

 

[covfefe]

Will David Savard fetch a first at the TDL, especially if we retain 50%?

I think it depends on if he can keep his impressive two way play up and if he starts to build a name around the league for doing so. That clip of him blocking a few shots in a row, and continuing even after he broke his hand, I think helped.

We'll see how the market is as we approach the TDL...

I don't share your optimism on this one purely because Savard hasn't played an honest, full season in the last 5 years. He traded hands on a similar premise 3 seasons ago and at this point the mileage is erring more on the side of BMW than Toyota.

 

[Scriptor]

I'm certainly not saying to rip the whole thing down and trade core players, but I do believe you move non-pieces that give you a good value return based on the market (E.G. not many vet C's are available, so Monahan fetches a high price).

I understand the value in letting the team compete for a playoff spot, but I don't think that should take priority over building for the future this year.

If Hugo chooses not the sell and lets the team compete, he knows he's going to cut his plan short as he won't be able to maximize his rebuild. Once the high-end talent in the pipeline starts to arrive and establishes themselves in the NHL over the next few seasons, he won't have the same opportunity as they will need to start striving for the playoffs (start pushing, not make) to build the winning culture.

If he doesn't hit now, we could end up in the same bubble-tier mediocrity for a while, which IMO is the worst outcome.

I also want to maximize the rebuild with smart trades/player personnel moves and want to avoid getting trapped in no man's land like we had for so many years.

When it comes to trading Monahan, I honestly believe that we should move him given the likelihood that a return could be rather high.

However, I don't think that a late first round pick and prospect(even àl a Heineman) is the best we can do with/for Monahan.

As I mentioned earlier, I would be looking to package a Monahan + for a premiere young forward from a team looking that is contending now and looking to cash in with Lord Stanley's bling right away, a team that might consider a veteran like Monahan a key element to rounding out their roster?

Kyrou, maybe? Rough patch after a 75-point season, followed by a 73-point season...

8.125M Cap hit for another 7 years beyond this one...

Kyrou is on pace for 50 points, as is Monahan, but the veteran C/W is polyvalent, plays a physical brand of two-way hockey, excels the dot and will bring a team-first attitude to the rink every night.

Monahan is a glue veteran that can do the dirty work to make others better.

Would Monahan + Savard be worth Kyrou as a trade package? Would Monahan + Matheson (our two best assets) be worth Kyrou +?

I honestly think that Caufield - Suzuki and Dach - Kyrou could be interesting duos.

Slafkovsky - Dach - Kyrou

- OR -

Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky

- OR -

Caufield - Dach - Slafkovsky on online and a Suzuki - Kyrou (two friends) as duo on the other line?

Montreal could try Newhook-Suzuki-Kyrou as a line, target an UFA like Nylander (too early for me),or trade draft picks it is currently stock-piling for an established LW with size, skill and speed.

Acquired LW - Suzuki- Kyrou
Caufield - Dach - Slafkovsky
Newhook - Beck - Roy
RHP - Dvorak - Anderson (with Dvorak moved at the deadline next year)

 

[holy]

Look around the league and check out some of the names that so called contenders are boasting on the backend.

Savard would certainly attract some attention.

Hey if anyone's willing to give a first for the guy more power to them. To me he has no real role in our team development.

 

[26Mats]

I don't share your optimism on this one purely because Savard hasn't played an honest, full season in the last 5 years. He traded hands on a similar premise 3 seasons ago and at this point the mileage is erring more on the side of BMW than Toyota.


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I voted no, I don't think he will fetch a 1st. But we'll see what kind of market there is come trade deadline. Lesser players have gone for more, and better players for less.

 

[BLNY]

I don't think so. Guys with remaining term don't typically fetch what they'd be worth if they were pending UFAs. David's a third pair guy on a deep team too. That's not a 1st rounder imo.

I think he's a 2nd rounder (mid-late) if you retain but, honestly, I'd rather not. I'd take the third and you take the whole contract.

 

[CHwest]

I don't think so. Guys with remaining term don't typically fetch what they'd be worth if they were pending UFAs. David's a third pair guy on a deep team too. That's not a 1st rounder imo.

I think he's a 2nd rounder (mid-late) if you retain but, honestly, I'd rather not. I'd take the third and you take the whole contract.

If a team believes David Savard can put them over the top, whether on a first or third pairing then he most certainly is worth a first. Chances at a cup don't come along often and if you believe a player will move the needle for you, you make a move. I think it has been proven, vets that are suddenly afforded another late career chance at the cup, deliver.

 

[26Mats]

I don't understand the negativity some in this fan base have towards some of our recent D signings.

Chiarot: Outplays his $3.5M contract, key performer during our cup run, later traded as to acquire a 1st & 4th round picks.

Hab fans: Awful signing!

Edmundson: Rights acquired for a 5th round pick, signed to a fair $3.5M contract, becomes an ideal partner for Petry during our cup run, later traded for a 3rd + 7th round picks.

Hab fans: Brutal signing!

Savard: Signed to a fair $3.5M contract, becomes a reliable vet presence on a rebuilding team with a very young d-core after the departure of Weber, likely to be traded for value this deadline or the next.

Hab fans: Terrible signing!

I don't understand the criticism. All were (are) fairly paid for what they brought, all positively contributed to the team in their own ways during their time here, and all were traded for more value than it cost to acquire them when they left.

If Eddie hadn't gotten injured I would have hoped to have gotten a 1st for him. But such is life.

 

[HuGort]

A heavy right shot D who block shots can fit in most defensive systems usually worth their in gold at deadlines.

I'd ask Chiarot type return.