Management POHO Staios/GM D̶o̶r̶i̶o̶n̶/Front Office Thread - Part X [Mod Warning in post 1)

[AchtzehnBaby]

Yeah, that's not an interview, you don't interview your new boss. You share ideas as they should!

Lose the emotional scrambling of Dorion's new standing

It must really sting for the "PD is gone when Staios gets in" crowd.

 

[Sens Vader]

It must really sting for the "PD is gone when Staios gets in" crowd.

Meh I think that was pretty obvious with 1) the timeline of the sale and 2) the guy who bought it

I don't see the value in firing staff immediately, like PD or not he and his team have a wealth of knowledge on all of our players. Would be silly to remove that immediately and start from ground zero.

I think we are also used to having no budget where we can actually hire NEW additions

This is the best-case scenario imo. Add to the current staff by placing people above them

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

It must really sting for the "PD is gone when Staios gets in" crowd.

Staios seems like a smart, measured guy. Same with Andlauer.

Of course he'll want to evaluate Dorion himself. It'll be up to him to make a good impression over the next several months. Same goes for DJ.

Getting the Pinto situation solved and having a good start to the season is step 1.

I think there are only 3 guys (from the previous regime) who are for certain here next season: Tkachuk, Stützle, Sanderson.

Everyone else needs to step up and prove themselves to Staios. That includes Dorion, DJ, Chabot, Batherson, etc.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

 

[DueDiligence]

Owner: Andlauer
POHO: Staios
GM: Dorion

Not sure how people think that Dorion is above Staios? When Dorion is let go, who do think will do the firing? It will be Staios thanking him for his years of service and wishing him well.

Isn't that structure obvious?

 

[Hale The Villain]

"I've begged for a boss in the past"

Yeah sure Pierre

 

[milkbag]

It must really sting for the "PD is gone when Staios gets in" crowd.

Calling it a "crowd" is a bit much.
What youre saying has been repeated several times (by the same "crowd" mind you), but I don't recall anyone ever actually saying Andlauers very first order of business was to fire Dorion. Bit of ridiculous hyperbole to assume that's what people are saying just because they're critical of Dorion.

Pierre lost a ton of power today, and has someone to answer to that isn't the owner now. That's a bit of a win for both sides on the "love/hate Dorion" thing, no?

 

[OD99]

Why are you posting the same thing multiple times?

 

[swiftwin]

"I've begged for a boss in the past"

Yeah sure Pierre

Having a good boss (POHO) to insulate you from a bad boss (Melnyk) is a good thing. Why wouldn't Dorion have wanted that?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Why are you posting the same thing multiple times?

Multiple excitement

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Calling it a "crowd" is a bit much.
What youre saying has been repeated several times (by the same "crowd" mind you), but I don't recall anyone ever actually saying Andlauers very first order of business was to fire Dorion. Bit of ridiculous hyperbole to assume that's what people are saying just because they're critical of Dorion.

Pierre lost a ton of power today, and has someone to answer to that isn't the owner now. That's a bit of a win for both sides on the "love/hate Dorion" thing, no?

Did not lose a ton of power. Still being a GM.

Can still make decisions. Just has a helper now.

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

Having a good boss (POHO) to insulate you from a bad boss (Melnyk) is a good thing. Why wouldn't Dorion have wanted that?

Dorion loved Melnyk. He's said that had an excellent relationship and he loved working with him.

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Dorion loved Melnyk. He's said that had an excellent relationship and he loved working with him.

Right. For sure they had many candle light dinners together.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Right. For sure they had many candle light dinners together.

Oh yeesh. End it there, we don't need to know what happened after the dinners.

 

[Micklebot]

Did not lose a ton of power. Still being a GM.

Can still make decisions. Just has a helper now.

What you call helper, others might call oversight.

 

[milkbag]

Did not lose a ton of power. Still being a GM.

Can still make decisions. Just has a helper now.

Nah man, he got a boss today. Do you call your boss at work your helper? A nice little helper (shhhh...that oversees you and whom you report to).

He got someone who has the final say and whom he needs to seek approval from. Sure he'll help, if you wanna get into the semantics of it.

Dorion is still GM but lost decision making power today.

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

Did not lose a ton of power. Still being a GM.

Can still make decisions. Just has a helper now.

There's a concept in the corporate world called "managing out executives".

You create an environment that "encourages" someone to leave their job.

The most common first step is hiring someone above said person. This diminishes their autonomy and blocks their path for promotion.

I'm sure Dorion envisioned becoming President one day, and promoting someone like Bowness to GM. He built the team after all! He should be rewarded if it does well!

Well that's no longer an opportunity in this organization.

It'll be all smiles today, and in the first few weeks. The true test will be how the relationship between Andlauer, Staios and Dorion develops into February and March.

What happens when Dorion wants to make a trade and Staios shoots him down?

 

[Emerica]

Did not lose a ton of power. Still being a GM.

Can still make decisions. Just has a helper now.

Also heard one of Staios main tasks is to make sure Dorion’s office is always clean (vacuum, dust off his desk, empty out his trash can, etc.). Also, making sure Dorion’s shoes are always shiny

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

What you call helper, others might call oversight.

Staios and Andlauer call it "accountability".

 

[Cosmix]

What you call helper, others might call oversight.

I would call Staios a "supervisor" who will assess Dorion and make a decision on his retention soon.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Staios and Andlauer call it "accountability".

That's all most of us wanted, regardless where it takes the team.

 

[Ghost of Jody Hull]

Right. For sure they had many candle light dinners together.

Dorion told the story that once, while on the way to Belleville with Melnyk, they got a flat tire. Melnyk turned to him and said, "you stay in the car, you're too important to our organization." Trent Mann ended up changing the tire (foreshadowing!).

Will Andlauer and Staios shower him with such kind words? Or will they ask him to get the jack out?

 

[Cosmix]

Nah man, he got a boss today. Do you call your boss at work your helper? A nice little helper (shhhh...that oversees you and whom you report to).

He got someone who has the final say and whom he needs to seek approval from. Sure he'll help, if you wanna get into the semantics of it.

Dorion is still GM but lost decision making power today.

Also Dorion reports to Staios, and does not report directly to Andlauer. Staios is now Dorion's boss.

Very expected type of comment from Dorion.