Confirmed with Link: PLD to the Kings for Iafallo, Vilardi, Kupari and a 2nd in 2024 (orig Mtl’s pick)

[Guardian17]

 

[kanadalainen]

Anyone have real info on Vilardi's back injury? Links would be appreciated.

There is something about it here (LA website):

The Kings selected Vilardi, a center from Kingston, Ontario, with the No. 11 pick in the 2017 NHL Draft, and signed him to a three-year, entry-level contract on March 1, 2018.

However, a chronic back injury cost Vilardi much of the 2018-19 season and limited him to four games with Ontario of the American Hockey League; he was unable to play for Canada at the 2019 IIHF World Junior Championship.

Vilardi was healthy for the beginning of the 2019-20 season and was assigned to Ontario, where he scored nine goals in 32 games before the Kings called him up. He had barely stepped on the ice for his NHL debut before taking a wrist shot that beat Florida Panthers goalie Sergei Bobrovsky. Vilardi also had an assist in Los Angeles' 5-4 victory.

 

[scelaton]

No real details as you'd expect, but a pretty clear timeline that suggests some candidates for injury type and therapies for remediation / maintenance.

Elliott: A bad back nearly cost the Kings' Gabe Vilardi his career. Now he's playing like a star

Kings forward Gabe Vilardi struggled with a back injury for so long that his future with the team was in doubt. Today, he leads them in goals.

www.latimes.com

Canadian winger Gabriel Vilardi out of world juniors with back injury

A nagging back injury will keep Canadian winger Gabriel Vilardi out of the world junior hockey championship.

www.cp24.com

Vilardi could miss start of Kings training camp with back injury | NHL.com

Los Angeles' top prospect has chronic condition, is not expected to participate in rookie camp

www.nhl.com

https://thehockeynews.com/news/gabriel-vilardis-long-road-to-breaking-out-in-the-nhl

Yeah, puzzling. I surmised a disc prolapse but you'd think he would've had (keyhole) surgery for it already.
What's your educated guess?

 

[irunthepeg]

I hope that Chevy did try for Byfield. I assume he was a non-starter, otherwise, c'mon... hopefully if Vilardi is the major piece of the return that he can stay healthy.

 

[Heldig]

Still worried about what is heading the other way. Fine if it is Stanley Disappointed if it is Henoila. Better not be SALOMONSSON or KUZMIN.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

I mean it's not like Dubois stayed healthy either. I'd imagine a pick or 2 coming our way also. We don't have many this year. Does LA have a 23 2nd or 3rd?

 

[Gm0ney]

Why? Because they were smart enough to not vastly overpay for a 60 pt. player?

All due credit to https://twitter.com/NikSmiith

 

[BoneDocUK]

Yeah, puzzling. I surmised a disc prolapse but you'd think he would've had (keyhole) surgery for it already.
What's your educated guess?

Hard to say -- esp with a chronic injuriy.

I won't speculate too specifically but cervical injuries tend to predominate in hockey with burst fractures/ significant herniations common and instances of frac/vdisloc and teardrops, etc.

Degeneration due to disease or trauma pops up also, even in younger players. Timelines can be long looks like GV has taken his regime seriously and made some significant progress -- but as they say, backs is backs. Always possible for a site to flare or be re-injured.

I'm confident the Jets will have done their due diligence via their med team and have a good idea of the state of play.

 

[Moe Mantha]

Chevy with the receipt. Chipman behind the wheel.

 

[JetsFan815]

I am very interested to see how PLD performs in LA. Throughout his entire career he has always played with an elite scoring winger... Panarin in Columbus and then Ehlers/Connor in Winnipeg. He has never been "THE Guy" on his line.

In LA he will have to be that, Fiala is the closest they have to an elite winger, and while he's a good player, he is no Panarin/Connor/Ehlers and tends to run hot and cold (and no guarantee he would even play with Fiala).

I will esp be keeping a close eye on his 5v5 scoring which has been pretty meh. He has been feasting on the PP for the last couple of years, PP scoring is more likely to see a dip or a steep ride when switching teams.

 

[Gabe Kupari]

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All due credit to https://twitter.com/NikSmiith

Add doing a 1st and 2nd for Newhook

 

[Ggg99]

Hmmm. Seems too good to be true.

Perhaps we are tossing in a Heinola/Stanley or a Harkins?

Either way, two thumbs up Mr Chevy.

 

[Guardian17]

Vilardi has some moves.

 

[Guardian17]

This is so good!!!

 

[Mathil8]

Do we need a second thread for this discussion? Feel like it should be closed until something's confirmed.

 

[gojetsgo]

McIntyre said he heard the jets were pushing for a 2nd round pick

 

[Stumbledore]

They’re saying Vilardi, Iafallo and Kupari headed this way. If finalized, what a haul in a situation we had almost no leverage in. LA drank the stupid juice lol.

Not to pop your happy balloon here but LA is anything but stupid.

As with all trades, we wait and see.

 

[UFO]

As an European, that Montreal everyone has been speaking about... where exactly in LA is Montreal located?

 

[Royale With Cheese]

Not to pop your happy balloon here but LA is anything but stupid.

As with all trades, we wait and see.

My gut tells me we’re going to give up an asset that hurts. This is too good to be true.

 

[Gm0ney]

Add doing a 1st and 2nd for Newhook

Eesh...

 

[Mooche]

Still worried about what is heading the other way. Fine if it is Stanley Disappointed if it is Henoila. Better not be SALOMONSSON or KUZMIN.

Agreed. Hoping it's Stanley as well.

Would imagine it's very unlikely that Salomonsson is involved due to the org's complete lack of RHD and the abundance for the Kings.

I keep praying the size and LHD of Mr. Stanley will entice Blake to just get this deal done and across the finish line.

 

[Weezeric]

McIntyre said he heard the jets were pushing for a 2nd round pick

Valardi, Iafallo, Kupari, 2023 or 24 2nd round pick

For

Dubois, Harkins, Heinola

Is my guess.

Would prefer it be Stanley but we will see…

 

[DRW204]

PLD has changed his mind on LA

 

[scelaton]

Hard to say -- esp with a chronic injuriy.

I won't speculate too specifically but cervical injuries tend to predominate in hockey with burst fractures/ significant herniations common and instances of frac/vdisloc and teardrops, etc.

Degeneration due to disease or trauma pops up also, even in younger players. Timelines can be long looks like GV has taken his regime seriously and made some significant progress -- but as they say, backs is backs. Always possible for a site to flare or be re-injured.

I'm confident the Jets will have done their due diligence via their med team and have a good idea of the state of play.

Appreciate the detailed (yet necessarily general !) reply.

My read on this situation is that the Jets are taking a calculated risk here. If Vilardi stays healthy, he could be a steal, but, as you say, backs are backs. Everyone understands the risks and that's what makes it a fair deal.

OTOH--hockey is a rough game and injuries are common, even more so for players playing PLDs style. I'd rate PLD's career likelihood of injury to be significant too, though less than Vilardi's.

Maybe PLD's game 5 was a "personal day" to keep himself healthy for his next team. Can't be too careful with the body, y'know.

 

[Atoyot]

Still worried about what is heading the other way. Fine if it is Stanley Disappointed if it is Henoila. Better not be SALOMONSSON or KUZMIN.

I like Kuzmin, but he's probably a long shot to make the NHL. If he's the type of prospect needed to get this trade done it's a no-brainer.