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koteka said:
Anyway, in my American English, saying a team is “done” is like saying they are “hopeless” or it is ”over”. These are not literal statements.
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I understand that's what most people mean but I thought CBJW meant it literally and he confirmed to me that he does want it to be understood literally.

koteka said:
I quote directly: “Montreal plays twice before we play again. It could go up to 9 back.” I take that to mean that Montreal has a game in hand and plays more games before we play again, so we are likely to drop farther out of the playoff picture without doing anything.
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When that statement was made both Montreal and Columbus had 13 games remaining, no games in hand. Montreal was going to play two of their remaining 13 games in between our Monday game and our Friday game. But the timing of those games is basically irrelevant to our playoff chances. If we lost our Monday game our odds would diminish greatly (to something like 3%), and Montreal's two games would lower our odds further only if (and when) they won them. That's what I meant by independent events.

koteka said:
I read this as: How dare you say they are done? Some doofus has a model (that likely just uses winning percentages and doesn’t place a greater weight on recent games) and he still says the Jackets have a non zero chance of making the playoffs.
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It does place a bigger weight on recent games.
 
majormajor said:
When that statement was made both Montreal and Columbus had 13 games remaining, no games in hand. Montreal was going to play two of their remaining 13 games in between our Monday game and our Friday game. But the timing of those games is basically irrelevant to our playoff chances.
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The statement presupposed a Jackets loss thus Montreal having a game in hand. I should have kept my mouth shut because now I am trapped in a stupid discussion that I don’t think needed to be had.

Hypothetical scenario:
Jackets lose, thus losing 7th game in a row
Canadiens in 2nd wildcard spot, with a game in hand, 5 points ahead of CBJ with the possibility (not definite) of getting to a 9 point lead before the Jackets see the ice again
Other teams ahead of us (Islanders, Rangers) or about even with us (Red Wings) also fighting for wildcard spot

Use whatever adjective you like, it doesn’t look pretty.
 
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Double-Shift Lasse said:
Indeed. I'm almost to the point where Ottawa's results don't matter. Almost...
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Pretty much in agreement. Not because we can’t catch them (particularly since we play them 3 times, so if we go 2-1 or 3-0 against them…) but more like if we do catch them, chances are we finished strong enough to be WC2 anyway. Same with NJD.

It’s similar on the flip side. I’m not worried about Boston (or Pittsburgh). Not because they can’t catch us, but if they do catch us, that means we very likely didn’t finish strong enough anyway.

To me, I’m looking at it as 5 teams (MTL, NYI, NYR, CBJ, Det) for one spot.
 
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Long Live Lyle said:
Pretty much in agreement. Not because we can’t catch them (particularly since we play them 3 times, so if we go 2-1 or 3-0 against them…) but more like if we do catch them, chances are we finished strong enough to be WC2 anyway. Same with NJD.

It’s similar on the flip side. I’m not worried about Boston (or Pittsburgh). Not because they can’t catch us, but if they do catch us, that means we very likely didn’t finish strong enough anyway.

To me, I’m looking at it as 5 teams (MTL, NYI, NYR, CBJ, Det) for one spot.
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of the teams on that list it looks like...
Montreal only plays Detroit once and no one else

NYI only plays NYR and CBJ

NYR only plays NYI

And DET only plays MTL...

So really not to bad from that aspect.
 
Only game on tap to watch today is Vancouver @ Islanders. Obviously rooting for Vancouver, but they are short handed as they are without two top 6 forwards.
 
Monk said:
Well why don't you just say you're done with this discussion then?
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