Players who are low key cooked

[Casey Jones]

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[Preposterone]

David Perron

He was cooked last year

 

[Commander Clueless]

Morgan Reilly

I mostly watch the Leafs, but this to me is one of the big shockers out there.

Captain Morgan has had his ups and downs but this season is....just wow.

Most years we talk about needing a partner for Rielly. I think this year the talk should be about acquiring a defenseman to replace him and let him play more sheltered minutes.

 

[AM]

RNH, sadly. He’s still a special teams witch but 5v5 he’s getting out scored by dudes like Podkolzin and Connor Brown.

Rediculous

 

[Pablo El Perro]

I mostly watch the Leafs, but this to me is one of the big shockers out there.

Captain Morgan has had his ups and downs but this season is....just wow.

Most years we talk about needing a partner for Rielly. I think this year the talk should be about acquiring a defenseman to replace him and let him play more sheltered minutes.

I thought he'd have a better year, with the Tanev and OEL pickups.

 

[Three On Zero]

I was literally laughed out of the threads when I said Lankinen took the deal in Vancouver because he knew he had a legit shot at being number one there. Now how about them apples.

He initially refused to sign, he circled back when he couldn’t get a better deal.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

Jeremy Swayman. Im saying it more for the anti-jinx, though, I like the dude and want him outta Boston.

 

[Phosphophyllite]

Rantanen. Playing with Mack and Makar masked it, but he really fell off the past few years.

 

[Turin]

Kris Letang

 

[BigDaddyLurch]

Logan Stanley is not an nhl defenseman

...neither is Vinny Desharnais; they were never "low-key cooked" cuz they never should have made the Show in the first place...

 

[Boud]

Rantanen. Playing with Mack and Makar masked it, but he really fell off the past few years.

Lmaooo

He was cooked last year

He’s well done now

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Taylor Hall?

Friedman said on Monday that Chicago would have never got an offer as a high as a 3rd.

Is he terrible now?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Mike Matheson makes me want to kill myself

 

[Toby91ca]

Taylor Hall?

Friedman said on Monday that Chicago would have never got an offer as a high as a 3rd.

Is he terrible now?

Makes sense, they had to take on Rantanen salary + Hall to get the 3rd

 

[bossram]

Taylor Hall?

Friedman said on Monday that Chicago would have never got an offer as a high as a 3rd.

Is he terrible now?

He looked pretty good last night. He was flying.

I'm certain Tulsky did not view Hall as "cooked". CAR saw him as a useful player to add to their lineup.

 

[Bring Bak Damphousse]

Mike Matheson makes me want to kill myself

He makes me crazy too but Mathesons biggest problem is he’s playing #1 defenceman minutes, while not being a top pairing guy.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

He makes me crazy too but Mathesons biggest problem is he’s playing #1 defenceman minutes, while not being a top pairing guy.

Absolutely true, but don’t distract from the fact that he’s the worst defensive player in the league

 

[Tasteslikekevinbacon]

He was cooked last year

Man just needs some power thirst

 

[DingerMcSlapshot]

Nuge.

 

[RickyLafleur]

Hoping it isn't true for Demko and this is just rock bottom. But he may be a candidate.. but look at Gibson who is top 10 in save percentage right now. Goalies are voodoo.

Derek Ryan may be done and I hope not. As an Oiler fan it is so nice to have that be our most cooked player. I don't agree with the RNH take but do agree he's not playing great but he's still a top line player and key guy for the team and his cap ain't bad. 50 point pace and 19 TOI on a contender isn't bad!

Starting to think Jan Rutta won't be in the NHL next season.

Filip Chytil is one hit away from LTIRetirement and it drives me crazy.

Vrana may be done.

Palat gets good linemates and opportunities but I'm not sure he's ever been 100% in NJ.

19 min toi, 1PP, 50 pts playing with mcdavid is bad especially when this guy had over 100 pts 2 years ago.

 

[Mike Liut]

Sunqvist
Leddy
krug
Faulk

Lots of cap tied up in these slugs.

 

[tyhee]

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Let teams buy out guaranteed contracts with no cap penalties.

Let's take a look at a hypothetical situation with unlimited penalty free buyouts, for example a big market team with no cap room which has an $8 million player producing to the level expected for his salary and sees an opportunity to sign someone for the same price that the team's management considers a better player. The big market team (or deep pocketed owner) can simply buy out the existing player and get someone a little better-without any cost against the cap.

The obvious effect of giving a big-market team an incentive to buy out a player whenever they think they can make better use of his cap space is to increase the number of buyouts and give richer teams or owners, which can afford to buy out more players, a competitive advantage.

If this were allowed and the rules assessed part or all of the amount spent on buyouts against the players' share of hockey related revenue it would mean the increased buyouts would hurt every player that isn't bought out. This happens now, but buyouts would go up dramatically if there was no cap penalty so would cost the other players more.

I can't see this working.

 

[dgibb10]

Too many to list but we have to pretend they are good old warriors.

Let teams buy out guaranteed contracts with no cap penalties.

Prepare to see blatant cap circumvention of players who have no business getting long term deals get long term deals from the richest teams to cheat the salary cap.

It would literally be the situation with Kovalchuk and Luongo again where they give guys ridiculous term (that they know damn well the guy will be retired for) to lower the AAV and cap hit while still paying them the same amount, except now instead of using retirement to get rid of the cap hits, it will be buyouts.

Let's take a look at a hypothetical situation with unlimited penalty free buyouts, for example a big market team with no cap room which has an $8 million player producing to the level expected for his salary and sees an opportunity to sign someone for the same price that the team's management considers a better player. The big market team (or deep pocketed owner) can simply buy out the existing player and get someone a little better-without any cost against the cap.

The obvious effect of giving a big-market team an incentive to buy out a player whenever they think they can make better use of his cap space is to increase the number of buyouts and give richer teams or owners, which can afford to buy out more players, a competitive advantage.

If this were allowed and the rules assessed part or all of the amount spent on buyouts against the players' share of hockey related revenue it would mean the increased buyouts would hurt every player that isn't bought out. This happens now, but buyouts would go up dramatically if there was no cap penalty so would cost the other players more.

I can't see this working.

No, more realistically you'd see the scenario play out (as it did before they added term limits with Kovalchuk and others), of teams giving out frontloaded, long term deals with absolutely 0 intention of those players playing out the full contract, allowing them to pay the player more than they will show on their cap sheet, and then simply buying them out towards the end.