Makar Goes Fast
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none. teams will take the minnesota approach and rather than loose 2 good players, they will accept it and just loose one.
none. teams will take the minnesota approach and rather than loose 2 good players, they will accept it and just loose one.
You spelled lose wrong, twice
Nope players waive their NMC all the time. It's not there to prevent a move it's there to prevent a move to a team like say, The Jackets or Arizona or Vancouver teams that are absolute garbage
You spelled lose wrong, twice
You spelled lose wrong, twice
I know that you think Toronto should be on that list and believe me if this was 2012-2014 they would be, but it's not
This team now has Mathews Nylander Marner Reilly and Andersen, the core is now in placebo think they are going to start becoming attractive to players that's why they aren't there
Yeah... but you can lose a player that's decent for nothing, and be left with a fringe NHLer as a replacement, or trade the decent player for a pick, have the fringe player be claimed and be left with another fringe player plus a pick.
Not necessarily.
The Flyers only have two dmen worth protecting who aren't free agents right now. If they could trade one of the Raffl/Weise/Laughton/Cousins for a defenseman before the ED that would make a lot of sense.
You know little about the Flyers ^^^^.
none. teams will take the minnesota approach and rather than loose 2 good players, they will accept it and just loose one.
That's a nice glass house you're living in...
Clearly you just don't recognize the massive popularity of Toronto with free agents. Why I hear Tavares will be signing there in a year.
The part where you call them worthless is wrong, and the part where you claim they could only get some team's #7 dman is also wrong.
Comes down to 2 things
A. Management outlook. Are they placing more value on immediate roster strength or playing the long game with organizational asset management.
B. F v D depth cut offs and weighing the 7+3 vs. 8 protection schemes.
A team that could very well satisfy both is the Preds.
Under 7+3
Exposed D: Ellis/Ekholm
Exposed F: Scissons? Depth player anyway
Under 8 (4+4)
Exposed D: Granberg
Exposed F: 2 of Smith/Wilson/Jarncrok
If they're not a prime contender it makes more sense for them long term to move Ellis/Ekholm for a good return (maybe not full value but not peanuts) and lose Scissons/Granberg for nothing than to lose one of the 5 vets listed above. Either for a top 6 forward (by my count they have 1 slot avaialbe) or futures.
Like I said earlier in the thread, it wont be about players being available cheap. Giveaways don't make any sense. But some players may be available that otherwise would not.
The expansion draft is set up for most if not all of the teams to lose a player they would rather not lose.
I know that you think Toronto should be on that list and believe me if this was 2012-2014 they would be, but it's not
This team now has Mathews Nylander Marner Reilly and Andersen, the core is now in placebo think they are going to start becoming attractive to players that's why they aren't there
Actually, except for Reilly and Andersen those are unproven prospects who will play at some time for the worst team in the league. No one waives for that crappy team. We don't know what Reilly will become, he could become a legit top pairing guy or he could become a #4. Andersen? If he was a #1 goalie, he wouldn't have been traded for so little.
Reilly won't be a #4 guy seeing as he's already a legit #2
As for Andersen he's already been a #1 guy on a playoff team so there is that and it was either trade him or expose him next summer and lose him for nothing.
And before you come back with some crap about "well if he was a #1 he wouldn't be exposed." Because I know you will
The ducks are a budget team and they have a great young goalie that's much cheaper than Andersen
That doesn't mean Andersen is not a #1 it means they had 2 #1 guys
Kind like how the pens look to have that situation now
Doesn't mean MAF isn't a #1 guy but at some point they have to move him.
Reilly is a #2 on a team with no blue line. What is he in Nashville? Minnesota?
If you think Andersen is a #1, I don't know what to tell you. He is not a top 20 goalie. Neither is Fleury. Exposed? Not exposed? It doesn't matter. You are so hung up on bottom fishing because there is an expansion draft it's funny. How many players will each team lose? How many goalies can Vegas take? The draft is not a reason to dump players to help you rebuild your team.
And the Leafs are a no go for most UFAs or players with NMCs. Ask Stamkos, Rick Nash, Brad Richards etc.etc.etc. I can't wait for the Tavares to the Leafs threads just like those listed above.
The only UFA of note that went there? David Clarkson!
You are letting your "Leaf Fan for Life" glasses color your perspective. The Leafs are less attractive to players than Arizona, Columbus, Vancouver, Edmonton, Calgary etc.etc. I think players are more likely to waive for the teams you listed than Toronto. You know what's really sad? So many of them are FROM Ontario and still won't sign there.
As someone pointed out, people who live in glass houses. Think before you post.
none. teams will take the minnesota approach and rather than loose 2 good players, they will accept it and just loose one.
I think the more interesting angle here is who attaches something to a player they want to get rid of.
As a Wings fan I would be willing to attach a second round pick to either Ericsson or Howard for future Considerations just to make sure they take one.