Player Discussion: Liljegren Is Back
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Torontonian
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You may not like him, he’s still a 5/6 dman on a NHL team, He’a a better player then Mete / Benn who are our other options right now.
zeke
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keonsbitterness
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I’m sorry to tell but it’s really not . Muzzin is injured half the time and I can’t even remember who the fourth D was but it doesn’t even matter if it’s one of Gio, Lil or Holl. Reilly is more like a #2…
I’m not saying it’s a bad defense but it’s it excellent. No one is scared of the defense whether it be from a physical standpoint or even and offense standpoint. They are good defense at best
Except it really is. You're either underrating what we have or overrating what other teams have.
The problem with him is that he's a mistake machine, and not little mistakes either we are talking about the kind of mistakes that make you go "you f***ing idiot you blew it."
Case in point game 7 when he took the penalty that wiped out Tavares tying goal.
If Holl doesn't take that penalty Rielly's goal is a 2-1 goal not a 1-1 goal and then who knows what happens.
We will never know because Justin Holl did take that penalty.
and that's the problem when he screws up it's not minor it's catastrophic.
And that would be OK If he had the offense to make up for it.
But he doesn't have the offense to make up for it so all he is, is a mistake machine.
Shame for Lili.
He was probably pulling Sweden on that sled training, overdid it. Guy’s a tank.
Get well soon.
He was probably pulling Sweden on that sled training, overdid it. Guy’s a tank.
Get well soon.
zeke
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Ianturnedbull
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Hernia? Oh boy. They say that you can overcome this type of thing, but I imagine Liljegren is in for a tough season. At worst he might be chasing the season with his health and conditioning.
Anyone know what engvall has?
Hernia blows because it's hard to do stuff while rehabbing as well
Hernia blows because it's hard to do stuff while rehabbing as well
definedMF
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Jesus christ this is the last thing I wanted to hear... I really hope it doesn't mean he will be chasing the game the entire year
Jimmy Firecracker
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6 weeks… f***’s sake. I was so looking forward to seeing Liljegren’s progression and now when he does start he’ll be behind the 8 ball.
Hernia surgery will clean the issue up though and you typically shouldn’t have repeat issues afterwards.
Timeline sucks considering it’ll derail his conditioning but as long as it’s not knee or shoulder related it’s not terrible.
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My guess is that this hernia was something he was dealing with through at the end of the 2021-22 season and they gave it the summer months to see if it healed itself without surgery.
Unfortunate this happened to two of our best value contracts instead of someone like mrazek or marleau in years past
SprDaVE
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I would maybe assume not. I believe hernias are the most difficult thing to heal on their own
Not too bad then. Appreciate it
WHAT! I want some if whatever you are drinking.
In their prime maybe Gio and TJ would have made us that, but not now. The best we can hope for is Keefe not over working them and playing Sandin and Lili lots of minutes so they can develop. I like TJ and Gio as playoff guys but not 18/20 min season long guys.
zeke
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How old do you think TJ is, exactly?
Muzz-Brodie absolutely dominated Tampa's top liners as a top matchup pairing in these past playoffs.
Gio won the Norris 4yrs ago, hasn't played less than 20mpg since his rookie year, and is our #4 dman, though will be pushed hard for that spot by Sandin and Lilly, two kids with top pair upside who dominatted soft bottom pair usage in their first full seasons.
Felix the Cat Potvin
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Yeah, Craig Button pointed out our defence as a weakness. We don't have a Makar or a Hedman so we need to make up for it with overall depth.
Muzzin, Brodie and Giordano are all aging rapidly, and Liljegren and Sandin are debatable in terms of their long-term top-4 potential. We have an ongoing deficit of size and physicality (which all successful playoff teams have) which is only getting worse, and no defensive prospects on the horizon in that regard (Braeden Schneider would have been a dream here).
I'm actually a little scared about our defensive core.
My point exactly. They played well in playoffs, and need to be managed to from them there in good shape. These guys are all over 32 and reaching area where injuries happen and do not heal quickly. They are not big, not tough and rely on legs. Keefe has to manage their games, do only Reilly is capable of large minutes. Lili and Sandin must be given time so their game and confidence can develop.
