Player Discussion: Brock Boeser | III | Our Boy in College

[CanaFan]

Olson and Neill look pretty mediocre IMO. Gaudette I'm not completely sold on.

Agree on Neill and Olson. Neill is AHL eligible and still in junior, not a promising sign. Olson looked pretty over his head in the YS tournament and is a long-shot to begin with. Maybe an AHLer who gets a few games in NHL if he's lucky.

Tougher to dismiss Gaudette though given his production through college so far. He's trending like a potential NHler though exactly what he tops out as is hard to say at the moment.

 

[WTG]

On October 28th&29th Boeser's Fighting Hawks will be facing 2nd in the nation Minnesota-Duluth

#1 UND vs #2 UMD

Big games for Boeser, still not 100% sold on UND being able to repeat their NCAA championship with Stecher, Schmaltz, Cagguilla leaving. But this is a big game to measure UND.

Also, Boeser named best offensive player this week in the NCHC

 

[TheWanderer]

Then if Willie is obsessed with using veteran players in order to save his job, then Boeser is far better off playing 25 minutes a night in Utica....look at what's going on with Virtanen right now....in his second season, and still 'in and out' of the lineup..and getting 6-8 minutes a night even when he does play.

Virtanen isn't being "held back" by Willie. Virtanen is playing like crap and doesn't deserve his roster spot. Blame management for trying to sell us on him so hard. They should be sending him down. We aren't even desperate for wingers this year, since Granlund has been such a surprise and took Virtanen's spot essentially.

If Boeser is worth his salt, he'll force someone out of the line-up, or he won't play much at the NHL level next year.

I bet you if (when) Boeser forces a winger out of the line-up, that winger will end up being Virtanen.

Virtanen is honestly not tracking well at all. He hasn't been since we drafted him. The only time he looked good since we drafted him was a brief streak of games last year. Other than that, he's barely tread water at the NHL level, and looks utterly lost and behind the play.

 

[Breakers]

This weekend will be a great measuring stick.

Going up against the number 2 team in the nation in Duluth.

The NCAA like the CHL has a lot of trash teams, so I'd love to see how dominant he can be against the best.

 

[Catamarca Livin]

This weekend will be a great measuring stick.

Going up against the number 2 team in the nation in Duluth.

The NCAA like the CHL has a lot of trash teams, so I'd love to see how dominant he can be against the best.

He scored 5 goals in 2 games I against the 10th ranked team last weekend and was great in t frozen four last year so...

 

[Siludin]

Boeser doesn't need tests, he just needs practice. Practice scoring more hat tricks. Two goals is no longer enough to satiate me.

 

[BassMason]

Boeser doesn't need tests, he just needs practice. Practice scoring more hat tricks. Two goals is no longer enough to satiate me.

Record for goals in a game is 8. Boeser can probably put up a 9 spot.

 

[ginner classic]

This weekend will be a great measuring stick.

Going up against the number 2 team in the nation in Duluth.

The NCAA like the CHL has a lot of trash teams, so I'd love to see how dominant he can be against the best.

BSU is not a crap team though.

 

[beachcomber]

This weekend will be a great measuring stick.

Going up against the number 2 team in the nation in Duluth.

The NCAA like the CHL has a lot of trash teams, so I'd love to see how dominant he can be against the best.

I'm cautiously optimistic about the guy but I keep in mind that he is Canuck's property so there is a good chance he becomes the next Bobby Lalonde.

 

[ChilliBilly]

I'm cautiously optimistic about the guy but I keep in mind that he is Canuck's property so there is a good chance he becomes the next Bobby Lalonde.

Bobby Lalonde was a decent player for the Canucks .... he played over 350 games for them. I would be happy with any draft pick outside of the first round doing that ... though of course not a lot of winning seasons in that period. (okay not outside of the first round but not drafted in the top 20 ....)

oh and at 5'5" he was the shortest player in the league

 

[M2Beezy]

Do his team only play on fridays and weekends? Seems like it

 

[WTG]

Do his team only play on fridays and weekends? Seems like it

College players play back to back on weekends.

 

[The Iron Goalie]

Do his team only play on fridays and weekends? Seems like it

That's how the College schedule works. School/training during the week, and games on the weekends

 

[Jack Burton]

Need some help here...is Brock under contract with the canucks? Everywhere I look on the net, I can't find anything that he is. If he is not then when do the canucks have to sign him by? Is there a chance he could go to ufa status like some other college players?
Thankx

 

[Beansy*]

Need some help here...is Brock under contract with the canucks? Everywhere I look on the net, I can't find anything that he is. If he is not then when do the canucks have to sign him by? Is there a chance he could go to ufa status like some other college players?
Thankx

You can't play in the NCAA if you are under contract, so no, he is not.

 

[Askel]

Need some help here...is Brock under contract with the canucks? Everywhere I look on the net, I can't find anything that he is. If he is not then when do the canucks have to sign him by? Is there a chance he could go to ufa status like some other college players?
Thankx

Hes under canuck controll untill he finishes his school so basicly 3 more years.

 

[J Canuck]

Need some help here...is Brock under contract with the canucks? Everywhere I look on the net, I can't find anything that he is. If he is not then when do the canucks have to sign him by? Is there a chance he could go to ufa status like some other college players?
Thankx

NCAA players can not sign pro contracts or even accept a gift of any kind. He's expected to sign with the Canucks once the current NCAA season is completed. Canucks still hold his rights if he decides on a 3rd year of NCAA, but on completion of that he would be eligible to leave the NCAA, the Canucks have a 30 day exclusive negotiating window, then he'd become UFA.

That's my understanding anyway, based on recent NCAA players going UFA (Jimmy Vesey, Matt O'Connor, Justin Schultz).

 

[as15]

NCAA players can not sign pro contracts or even accept a gift of any kind. He's expected to sign with the Canucks once the current NCAA season is completed. Canucks still hold his rights if he decides on a 3rd year of NCAA, but on completion of that he would be eligible to leave the NCAA, the Canucks have a 30 day exclusive negotiating window, then he'd become UFA.

That's my understanding anyway, based on recent NCAA players going UFA (Jimmy Vesey, Matt O'Connor, Justin Schultz).

Generally right except you're a year off. Vancouver's holds Boeser's rights all the way through his senior year of college (two seasons after this one). He would be eligible to become a free agent at this time. Justin Schultz was able to become a FA after his junior year because he played an additional year in the BCHL after he was drafted.

If I had to put a percentage on it, there is a 0% chance that Boeser signs his ELC with any other team than Vancouver unless his rights are traded.

 

[J Canuck]

Thanks for the correction. I suspected I might be off by a year. All signs have been pointing to him signing this summer anyway, fans will rejoice.

 

[beachcomber]

If he knew what was in store for him in Vancouver he'd be better off playing four years and signing somewhere else.

 

[beachcomber]

Bobby Lalonde was a decent player for the Canucks .... he played over 350 games for them. I would be happy with any draft pick outside of the first round doing that ... though of course not a lot of winning seasons in that period. (okay not outside of the first round but not drafted in the top 20 ....)

oh and at 5'5" he was the shortest player in the league

Ya that was a great pick. Three ahead of Larry Robinson. Same old theme with the nucks.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Though nothing has been said officially, it sounds like Boeser is planning on signing as soon as his season is done.

The Canucks should give him as loaded a ELC as they can. He is tracking way better than the 23rd over all draft pick. Today I suspect he would be top 5.

He had the choice Demko did ... one more year of college or turn pro. Demko did it even though the negative nellies on here were sure he would bolt. Same with Boeser I hope. Only difference is that Demko is slotted to spend a year in Utica, whereas Boeser is old enough to step in with the Canucks.

This poses an interesting discussion about NCAA draft picks. If you are a bonafide NHLer then you will likely sign half way through your college career. If you are borderline, theres a good chance you will finish your education, and the get to choose who you sign with. Since ELC have to be 2 way, you sign with someone who promises you a NHL starting job (Schultz for example).

Its also worth noting that forwards, D men and Goalies are quite different. goalies and D men don't make the NHL as quickly as forwards. forwards burn out earlier for the most part. Therefore drafting NCAA D men and goalies is riskier. So actually I see us as safer with Boeser than we were with Demko.

 

[ChilliBilly]

Ya that was a great pick. Three ahead of Larry Robinson. Same old theme with the nucks.

sorry thats cherry picking. Every draft you can find someone taken after our pick who would have been better. Unless you screamed "why didn't you take Robinson" at the time, you are just parsing the results.

The draft threads are entertaining this way. Even Chris (Y2K)was upset that we took Horvat over Shinkaruk at the time. (We ended up getting both that year). Pretty sure no one would change that decision now.

 

[Hit the post]

sorry thats cherry picking. Every draft you can find someone taken after our pick who would have been better. Unless you screamed "why didn't you take Robinson" at the time, you are just parsing the results.

Montreal thought so highly of Robinson, they also had THREE HIGHER picks than 20th overall - none of whom they used to select Robinson (granted one of those players turned out to be Guy Lafleur).

Course maybe that's the key - acquire multiple picks so you can afford to take a 'Reggie Jackson swing' selection (home run or strikeout - nothing inbetween).

 

[Frank Garrett]

Boeser doesn't need tests, he just needs practice. Practice scoring more hat tricks. Two goals is no longer enough to satiate me.

Bozer does not sleep. He waits.