Salary Cap: Pittsburgh Penguins Salary Cap Thread: Stirring The Pot Edition

[Darren McCord]

Solid reason to be fair.

If it does work then all is disco balls and unicorn farts. Both guys have the ability to break it out quick and put up points. But there's a pretty real chance Matheson can't handle the sort of minutes and responsibilities Marino should be getting, and he's going to get targeted because people don't like attacking Marino's side of the ice. And I guess we'll see how that goes.

I’m hoping that it can be a letang and dumo lite type pairing. A worse version of letang but a better version of dumo with offense

 

[ZorkEnchanter]

Just got on... what did I miss from the most optimistic crew on the internet? hahaha

 

[Tom Hanks]

Just got on... what did I miss from the most optimistic crew on the internet? hahaha

 

[Gurglesons]

Signing a a crap #6D for one year did not take this team from a top 3 seed in the Metro, as you stated recently, to out of the playoffs.

I didn't even bother to post here today because I was pissed at the signing too. But come on.

If Ceci is a regular in this line up. I’ll make a bet it does.

 

[Ryder71]

Petts is a stable top 4 D man. We really can’t afford to be trading that with our D roster and the uncertainties

We already had numerous holes and JR found ways to create new ones. It's ALMOST hard to do. Yet he makes it seem effortless.

 

[Ryder71]

That should about do it after another disappointing offseason here. Hopefully this is JR’s last offseason here.

With that 2.65 million we wasted on these curtain jerkers, we could have gotten a solid third liner and had money to pocket. This is awful.

 

[mpp9]

If Ceci is a regular in this line up. I’ll make a bet it does.

Well, I was always a bit doubtful of this team's success next season. But I don't think it's because of Ceci.

 

[Ryder71]

Well, I was always a bit doubtful of this team's success next season. But I don't think it's because of Ceci.

It's the accumulative effect of the three. Weren't ERod and Jankowski healthy scratches at points last season?

Also I trust Ruhwedel a hell of a lot more than I do Ceci. None of these moves are disastrous exactly, but they really don't help at all. We very likely have two guys playing 3rd line minutes that on other teams were Healthy Scratches. We would have been better off letting Poulin and Lafferty play in the bottom six. And saved the cap space for more in the way of a quality player.

 

[Pens x]

With that 2.65 million we wasted on these curtain jerkers, we could have gotten a solid third liner and had money to pocket. This is awful.

How frustrating will it be if some of the forward free agents still unsigned go for less than $4 million?

Dumo, Matheson Letang, Pettersson, Riikola, Ruhwedel, POJ, Marino were our dmen

or your third line of McCann Jank Rodrigues

What needs to be improved more?

 

[Gurglesons]

It's the accumulative effect of the three. Weren't ERod and Jankowski healthy scratches at points last season?

Also I trust Ruhwedel a hell of a lot more than I do Ceci. None of these moves are disastrous exactly, but they really don't help at all. We very likely have two guys playing 3rd line minutes that on other teams were Healthy Scratches. We would have been better off letting Poulin and Lafferty play in the bottom six. And saved the cap space for more in the way of a quality player.

ERod and Jankowski will be fine.

 

[Ryder71]

How frustrating will it be if some of the forward free agents still unsigned go for less than $4 million?

Dumo, Matheson Letang, Pettersson, Riikola, Ruhwedel, POJ, Marino were our dmen

or your third line of McCann Jank Rodrigues

What needs to be improved more?

I've been beating this drum since the civil war. Nobody hears my screams! JR actually made it harder on our stars. Unreal!

 

[Ryder71]

ERod and Jankowski will be fine.

Oh, because you say so? Get outta tahn!

 

[Gurglesons]

Oh, because you say so? Get outta tahn!

No, because they project as fine in bottom roles.

 

[Ryder71]

No, because they project as fine in bottom roles.

Define ''fine'' bottom six roles.

 

[Ryder71]

They combined for 17 points in 101 man games last year and jumped at one year 700k contracts. Lafferty is making more than they are. That doesn't sound like very much quality at all. You get what you pay for and in this scenario that would seem to be evident here. Hopefully they out perform their contracts but that isn't exactly saying much, now is it?

 

[Giant Yankee Pens]

Jake Sid Kap
Zuck Geno Rust
McCann TB Tanev
Laff Jank Sceviour
ERod (ZAR)

Dumo Letang
Matheson Marino
Pets Ceci
Riik Ruh

Jarry DeSmith

If that's the lineup, overall, I don't hate it. Please don't play Matheson with Ceci. Pets did OK with Guds so maybe he can work OK with Ceci.

Ceci didn't have to happen, but let's not pretend like Ruh is anything special either. He's fine when filling in 40 games a year, but, JR was never gonna feel total comfortable with him as the 3rd best righthand D on the team. Just wish it wasn't Ceci.

Also, Ceci is still youngish and is one year. The JJ comparisons are a little different when he is worse, 32 yrs old, and signed a 5 yr deal for 3.25 instead.

 

[Ryder71]

Jake Sid Kap
Zuck Geno Rust
McCann TB Tanev
Laff Jank Sceviour
ERod (ZAR)

Dumo Letang
Matheson Marino
Pets Ceci
Riik Ruh

Jarry DeSmith

If that's the lineup, overall, I don't hate it. Please don't play Matheson with Ceci. Pets did OK with Guds so maybe he can work OK with Ceci.

Ceci didn't have to happen, but let's not pretend like Ruh is anything special either. He's fine when filling in 40 games a year, but, JR was never gonna feel total comfortable with him as the 3rd best righthand D on the team. Just wish it wasn't Ceci.

Also, Ceci is still youngish and is one year. The JJ comparisons are a little different when he is worse, 32 yrs old, and signed a 5 yr deal for 3.25 instead.

That lineup is a borderline playoff team. If that's our end game it's obtainable. Anything more is a pipe dream!

 

[AuroraBorealis]

 

[Giant Yankee Pens]

That lineup is a borderline playoff team. If that's our end game it's obtainable. Anything more is a pipe dream!

That team will change over the course of a season... but even if it didn't, if they get in the playoffs, they will have a chance to win it all more than most. Sid, Geno, Jake, Letang... all can get hot and carry a team to glory. Most teams still don't have that. The key is just to get hot at the right time. Look at Tampa. They finally won after years of failing, but eventual everything clicked and they won like all but one OT game they had. That's the difference in the playoffs sometimes. Getting those OT goals instead of not

 

[AuroraBorealis]

Jake Sid Kap
Zuck Geno Rust
McCann TB Tanev
Laff Jank Sceviour
ERod (ZAR)

Dumo Letang
Matheson Marino
Pets Ceci
Riik Ruh

Jarry DeSmith

If that's the lineup, overall, I don't hate it. Please don't play Matheson with Ceci. Pets did OK with Guds so maybe he can work OK with Ceci.

Ceci didn't have to happen, but let's not pretend like Ruh is anything special either. He's fine when filling in 40 games a year, but, JR was never gonna feel total comfortable with him as the 3rd best righthand D on the team. Just wish it wasn't Ceci.

Also, Ceci is still youngish and is one year. The JJ comparisons are a little different when he is worse, 32 yrs old, and signed a 5 yr deal for 3.25 instead.

Gudbranson was fairly strong in year one with us, which was 19 games + playoffs. 54.7 corsi. Measured his passes nicely and we got out of our zone clean when was on the ice.

He was poor in year 2, but that was only 7 games.

He was never gonna live up to his contract, but overall he gets a bad wrap for his stay here.

 

[Pens x]

That team will change over the course of a season... but even if it didn't, if they get in the playoffs, they will have a chance to win it all more than most. Sid, Geno, Jake, Letang... all can get hot and carry a team to glory. Most teams still don't have that. The key is just to get hot at the right time. Look at Tampa. They finally won after years of failing, but eventual everything clicked and they won like all but one OT game they had. That's the difference in the playoffs sometimes. Getting those OT goals instead of not

What flavor is the Pens’ kool aid? We don’t have a 25 year old Sid or Geno to carry a hockey team. You are also assuming they will be healthy. We have a very good top 6, but the bottom six is laughable, and that’s a serious problem.

Now I know the key to playoff success is winning OT games. I guess I blamed it on them playing uninspired and uninterested hockey for two years as the reason they’ve been terrible.

Why not wait and keep the cap room to see what happens later in the off season? Teams still need to get under the cap and there are still decent free agents. We don’t need another damn reclamation project, half of this team is coming off horrible seasons.

Also, why start the season with an incomplete bottom six? What assets do we even have to land a respectable player? JR has been reckless and negligent with picks and the few good prospects we have.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Define ''fine'' bottom six roles.

Jank should fill what Teddy did this season on the 4th line (heavy defensive match ups) and should do well there. I won’t expect much more than that.

E-Rod seems more unpredictable to me. Higher upside for us in the bottom 6 but also could turn out pretty meh but a solid 4th liner.

These guys can both allow Tanev and Blueger to play better roles. Whether they powers that be think that way.............

 

[Ryder71]

Jank should fill what Teddy did this season on the 4th line (heavy defensive match ups) and should do well there. I won’t expect much more than that.

E-Rod seems more unpredictable to me. Higher upside for us in the bottom 6 but also could turn out pretty meh but a solid 4th liner.

These guys can both allow Tanev and Blueger to play better roles. Whether they powers that be think that way.............

What makes you think he can aptly fill the role TB did last year? I don't see it, both had very unremarkable years. To me they're spare parts.

 

[Gurglesons]

What makes you think he can aptly fill the role TB did last year? I don't see it, both had very unremarkable years. To me they're spare parts.

Largely because NHL players aren't defined by one year.

 

[Ryder71]

Largely because NHL players aren't defined by one year.

That being the case why did they sign very quickly after UFA period opened and only garner 1 year 700k contracts? Appears to me as though they were pretty desperate for a job.