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PensandCaps said:
They also like him a lot. But we need a 4C/3C badly.

Montreal is probably open to trading Danault. But he is a UFA after this year and wants paid.

I say offer McCann and a pick and see.
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Yeah, I'd love Danault. But, quarantine and cost is likely zilch. Plus Montreal is trying to be competitive why would they move him?

Not to mention he wants to be a top six center so doubt he'd sign here.
 
Gurglesons said:
Yeah, I'd love Danault. But, quarantine and cost is likely zilch. Plus Montreal is trying to be competitive why would they move him?
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Because he is a UFA and wants paid. They aren't real contenders, and can get a decent return for him.
 
Pens x said:
If anyone needs a 13th - 14th forward, Pittsburgh should be your first call.

Trade Dumo and McCann.
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Our 13F is DOC and 14th is...Angello? Why are teams calling us? Our forward depth is not good at the moment. You'd know this if instead of blind rage shit posting, you stopped and actually looked at the roster and what is happening.

PensandCaps said:
Because he is a UFA and wants paid. They aren't real contenders, and can get a decent return for him.
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I beg the differ, I think Montreal is a contender. I highly doubt they let him go unless its part of a larger trade that nets them another quality center. Like I could see something around Duchene and Danault if he is in negotiations for way more than they can afford.

With that, if Montreal can't afford him, how could we? I don't think we provide what they need at the moment so I have difficulty seeing any trade at the moment with Montreal that is of any significance.
 
SEALBound said:
Here's my problem with Getzlaf, everything that is being described about why we should want him is coming from him being the 1C in Anaheim with the team's top wings. He won't get that here. He will get 3C ice time and meh bottom 6 wings. What will he do then? Yeah, Getzlaf is good but at 35 I do not believe he can be the play driver that will overcome that hurdle. Maybe not unlike what happened with Brassard.

Sorry, but no. If we want to upgrade 3C, then we need to get a good 3C. Not a 1/2C that we can jam into 3C. We've tried that, didn't work.

Go do McCann for Bennett and be done with it.



My penis is erect and beginning to hurt but I don't think New York's has moved a bit and it's not due to the cold.
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Well Tbf, that's not really saying much, they're pretty brutal. Aside from Rakell who has been hurt off and on for the past few seasons.

Also, I would think about moving him to Wing. The place he would help most is the PP, he's such a smart passer, like Kessel.
 
PensandCaps said:
Because he is a UFA and wants paid. They aren't real contenders, and can get a decent return for him.
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The Habs are definitely contenders, especialy this season where they can easily be coming out of the Canadian division and find themselves in the final 4
Danault is also rumored to have rejected a 5 million dollar per year contract before the start of the season, so no thank you we are not moving assets for a guys that ain't staying anyways.
I think in the end, he will turn around and stay with the habs
 
SEALBound said:
Our 13F is DOC and 14th is...Angello? Why are teams calling us? Our forward depth is not good at the moment. You'd know this if instead of blind rage shit posting, you stopped and actually looked at the roster and what is happening.



I beg the differ, I think Montreal is a contender. I highly doubt they let him go unless its part of a larger trade that nets them another quality center. Like I could see something around Duchene and Danault if he is in negotiations for way more than they can afford.

With that, if Montreal can't afford him, how could we? I don't think we provide what they need at the moment so I have difficulty seeing any trade at the moment with Montreal that is of any significance.
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well, I wouldn't keep him.

Only if the Pens are looking good by the deadline and think they can make a run with Danault.

Also Maybe you move Zucker in the offseason if you want to make room for Danault. I think Dumo probably gets moved too.
 
I’m a big Boone Jenner fan. Let’s hope their CB’s GM is a big fan of a player or two in our euro centric prospect pool. If there is any way to do Zucker or Dumo + prospect for Jenner, I think it would help our mix at forward a lot. My only problem with him is he take stupid penalties with regularity.
 
The only reason I can see to go after Danault is because you're talking to Malkin and he's saying "I'd like to play W with a strong defensive C from now on, not C".
 
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PensandCaps said:
Well Tbf, that's not really saying much, they're pretty brutal. Aside from Rakell who has been hurt off and on for the past few seasons.

Also, I would think about moving him to Wing. The place he would help most is the PP, he's such a smart passer, like Kessel.
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Now, depending on the prices, that's an interesting thought. Dumo to Anaheim for Getzlaf@50% + young player or prospect could maybe work.

McCann for Bennett (still pushing this and will be).

Jake-Sid-Rust
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ZAR-Bleuger-Tanev

There would honestly be a nice mix of offense, defense, speed, skill, and grit with that lineup.

PensandCaps said:
well, I wouldn't keep him.

Only if the Pens are looking good by the deadline and think they can make a run with Danault.

Also Maybe you move Zucker in the offseason if you want to make room for Danault. I think Dumo probably gets moved too.
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As a rental, no way. If he was available at the TDL, the price would be very high. I'm not into bidding wars for UFAs that we do not intend to keep.
 
SEALBound said:
Now, depending on the prices, that's an interesting thought. Dumo to Anaheim for Getzlaf@50% + young player or prospect could maybe work.

McCann for Bennett (still pushing this and will be).

Jake-Sid-Rust
Getzlaf-Malkin-Kapanen
Zucker-Bennett-Laff/Jank/DOC
ZAR-Bleuger-Tanev

There would honestly be a nice mix of offense, defense, speed, skill, and grit with that lineup.



As a rental, no way. If he was available at the TDL, the price would be very high. I'm not into bidding wars for UFAs that we do not intend to keep.
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I really do think Getz and Malkin would work extremely well, Getz loves holding onto the puck at the NZ and hitting players in stride, like Malkin.

Even if he doesn't work there, he would be excellent in the 3C /PP specialist role.

I wouldn't worry too much about his linemates being worse, Considering Derek Grant, Troy Terry were his most common line mates last season.
 
Gurglesons said:
Must not know much about the player then. He's Kevin Hayes 2.0.

Plus he was offered 5.5 by Montreal and refused it.
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Tons of players refuse good offers and then realize in free agency that they are not indeed worth more.

Kevin Hayes is also overpaid, While being a better player who provides more offense.

Danault isn't as good as Hayes.

Hoffman was supposed to get 7 million
too.

Then again, Josh Anderson got 5.5 after a 4 point year, so who knows.
 
PensandCaps said:
Tons of players refuse good offers and then realize in free agency that they are not indeed worth more.

Kevin Hayes is also overpaid, While being a better player who provides more offense.

Danault isn't as good as Hayes.

Hoffman was supposed to get 7 million
too.

Then again, Josh Anderson got 5.5 after a 4 point year, so who knows.
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Danault is better than Hayes. Danault is basically what Ryan O'Reilly was in Colorado without the breakout season in terms of goal scoring.
 
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Gurglesons said:
As usual, you’re latching onto a big name and hoping it solves problems. Surprised you weren’t a bigger JR fan.

Comparing Rodrigues to Rust who last year outscored noted key to the powerplay Hornqvist on the powerplay last year and the year prior is something you can do though.
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Rust doesn't provide any critical element that makes the PP work though, does he?

If coveting skilled RH shots who can fill a glaring hole in our PP offense is "latching onto a big name", then I guess that's what I'm doing. It's obvious that none of our internal options are going to address it, and improving it is a critical element to our success.
 
Gurglesons said:
Danault is better than Hayes. Danault is basically Ryan O'Reilly in Colorado.
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I disagree. He doesn't score enough goals. Hayes can get you 25+.

Danault is better defensively, But he's a very passive offensive player. Hayes likes to carry the puck in.
 
Soggy Biscuit said:
Rust doesn't provide any critical element that makes the PP work though, does he?

If coveting skilled RH shots who can fill a glaring hole in our PP offense is "latching onto a big name", then I guess that's what I'm doing. It's obvious that none of our internal options are going to address it, and improving it is a critical element to our success.
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I mean Rust has a good shot, is willing to shoot, led the team in PP goals last season...so yea Rust does provide an element on the PP with his shot.

The guy who doesn't bring much of anything is Guentzel on the PP
 
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