Prospect Info: Pittsburgh Penguins Prospects Thread: 2023-2024 Edition
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Turin
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BlindWillyMcHurt
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I mean none of us are in control of any of this lol... I think it's kinda funny that some people are practically having a conniption over the idea that Yager might project better as a like 30/30 all situations wing with a defensive conscience. The horror!
Gurglesons
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Yeah. It’s bizarre and frankly weird.
We’re so starved for prospects that perspectives and expectations tend to warp to the upside. But when coupled with the realistic fear that any serviceable prospect we get will be semi-buried behind proven useless tweener grinders, we’re hopelessly conflicted.
Gurglesons
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Most of the stuff I say about Sullivan and prospects is universal to the NHL.
Yager’s draft pedigree and abilities will overcome Sullivan’s biases if he is still here, plus he is a North American player.
We will likely be in a position where we need to play him over his head when it gets to the NHL given the age of the roster in a couple years tbh.
HandshakeLine
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Acting like not having size is a bonus is also super weird. Players can succeed despite not being big, they don't succeed because they're small. This isn't combat sports, there are no weight classes.
Does that mean Yager's going to be penalized for being small or bust or whatever? No. But it's also why he fell to where he did.
Does that mean Yager's going to be penalized for being small or bust or whatever? No. But it's also why he fell to where he did.
Gurglesons
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4 players played more than 40 games that weighted less than 170 pounds this season. But weight doesn't matter.
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Yeah remember when Sam Poulin was dominating the QMJHL and everyone thought he was a sure bet prospect and now he's played 6 NHL games.
Kinda funny how junior hockey stats typically don't mean shit.
K Fleur
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Beau Bennett burnt me so bad that I don’t hold out hope for any first round forward prospects anymore.
If they don’t make the NHL and do something at like 19 I just assume they are going to suck.
If they don’t make the NHL and do something at like 19 I just assume they are going to suck.
As far as junior stats go you pretty much just hope a guy is improving year by year. When a prospect's production levels off in their D+1 or D+2 years that's a bit of a concern.
It took Jake 3 and 1/2 years to make the NHL and he's obviously the best prospect we've had since Letang/Staal.
So I mean, probably not gonna see Yager for a bit even if he does pan out.
I wonder if Yager ends up being our Dylan Larkin. A guy who is pretty good but is like 28 or 29 by the time we're starting to make (or almost make) the playoffs again.
Certainly seems like we're following pretty much the same path Detroit did, except with hopefully better lottery luck than they had.
Certainly seems like we're following pretty much the same path Detroit did, except with hopefully better lottery luck than they had.
Dennis Reynolds
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Bennett was such a terrible pick. Sure, he was dealt a pretty crummy hand with the injuries he faced. But his absolute ceiling was a third wheel on a third line. Valtteri f***ing Puustinen is already twice the player Bennett ever was.
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You've gone off the deep end here, I was being facetious but holy cow! lol
They matter, but honestly his numbers weren't all that. WHL typically is a much more difficult league to score. QMJHL IS more like firewagon hockey.
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Good to see MJ get into the Mem Cup. Always hard to tell how the teams from each league stack up against each other. The WHL has only won once in the last 12 years or so, which doesn't bode well, but who knows. With the way London walked over Oshawa in the final, they seem like the team to beat.
Gurglesons
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People comparing Yager to Konecny…Konecny was 5’10 and like 170 in his draft year…he played one season in juniors before making the Flyers roster at 19… forwards that will be good in the NHL like Konecny, Jarvis, Mercer etc will make the nhl club their second season for the most part…someone like Guentzel andRust are top six wingers who bucked the standard trend but more forwards are making it now earlier…I personally will have doubts about Yager if he can’t crack our top nine this season given who we have on this team lol
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Not Yager's fault the coach is a dunce and hasn't run a serious training camp in like seven seasons.
Gurglesons
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Yeah, it's funny that people are trying to say Yager is going to be a better player than Konecny.
Konecny is basically a top 20 RW winger in the game.
Who knows at this point but if he’s anywhere close to the junior player Konecny was, he should make the Pens this season…I like this lineup..would be even better if we could somehow land Pinto lol
Ehlers/De Brusk - Sid-Rust
Bunting- Geno- Yager/Rakelll
DOC-Pono-Rakell/Yager
X - Eller- Puusty
I don't know if I'd pencil in a 3L center who had 2 points in his last 18 AHL games. But I'm just stat watching; Since I haven't watched him play, I'm probably missing the nuance of Pono's game.
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