CTHabsfan
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Kevin Hayes AND a 2nd-round pick for future considerations? John Tortorella is laughing his a@@ off right now.
Dubas (probably): "We need to infuse the lineup and system with youth. Getting a 2nd round pick for future considerations helps us on that front, whether we draft someone or we use the capital to bring in another young player. So overall, this helps us quite a bit."People saying Dubas is bad when he basically just got a second for free is on par for this site these days. People are so set on being negative regardless of what the news is. Dubas could be fired tomorrow and posters here would already be railing on the next guy. He pulled off a great trade for Karlsson and got the best value he could for Guentzel. In less than 12 months year, he’s done at minimum a fairly good job.
Hayes does not matter in this deal on this roster and is yet probably an upgrade over Jeff Carter. And we got a 2nd round pick for it. Asset management and roster improvement. Good minor deal.
Where exactly is STL right now? I don't really understand where they're at and what their game plan is.
Yes, they just won't say the word "rebuild" out loudCan the Pens go full rebuild country club and re-sign Sid?
The question is: is he bad or Jeff Carter bad?
Was he that bad in STL?
Cap space.He’s pretty much irrelevant for the Pens’ future and if he gains some value and the Pens can trade him for another pick, well, that’s two picks for nothing.
Cap space that won’t really matter for this current roster, so basically free.Cap space.
And while there were better ways to weaponize that cap space, Hayes at 3C, Eller at 4C is an improvement over what we had last season.Dubas (probably): "We need to infuse the lineup and system with youth. Getting a 2nd round pick for future considerations helps us on that front, whether we draft someone or we use the capital to bring in another young player. So overall, this helps us quite a bit."
Reporter: "But what about Kevin Hayes?"
Dubas (probably): "Who?"
Reporter: "Kevin Hayes, the player you traded for?"
Dubas (probably): "Oh yeah, he'll be in the bottom 6 or something, whatever. We are excited about the 2nd round pick that we paid nothing for"
The density of people in this thread would astound Neil deGrasse Tyson. This move isn't "bring in Kevin Hayes to help us now". Kevin Hayes is absolutely irrelevant. He might help, he might not. No one really cares. If he does, great. If he doesn't, scratch him. He's not a staple in the lineup by any stretch. This move was about procuring draft capital for the future. That is the #1 priority of this move. #2 being Hayes and whatever impact he might have but in reality, it's sooooooooooo far down on the list behind "getting a low 2nd for free" that it's nearly irrelevant.
Why people refuse to understand that is...odd. And concerning for our world.
Yes, they just won't say the word "rebuild" out loud
So exactly what he did in PhillyJust gently cruising around, taking up space almost all the time.
The question is: is he bad or Jeff Carter bad?
You know, you’re right.Cap space that won’t really matter for this current roster, so basically free.
So exactly what he did in Philly
You mean the cap situation that was f***ed before he got here? He offloaded Petry, Granlund, Rutta to bring in Karlsson. He got the highest value possible for Guentzel. He brought in a serviceable winger in Smith who had a bad year and will now be offloaded for assets. He didn’t get the team mired in any of this offseason’s long term contracts. What cap issues has he created?You know, you’re right.
It won’t matter because in his short time here, Kyle has already managed to Dooble up the team’s cap space, roster, and throw away a first round pick. More to come in the near future, I’m sure.
Signs Grzelcyk to a low risk dealDubas really made this move then called it a day lmao. Now just waiting for the presser where he gloats about his "under the radar" move and flexes his "not being pressured to make any moves that don't make sense for this org".