Confirmed Signing with Link: [PIT] Pens re-sign Guentzel (5 years, $6M AAV)

[sens13]

fair deal just based on his playoff performances. if he keeps up his current ppg during the regular season this will be a steal. he should have waited until the season was over to sign.

 

[bobholly39]

I feel like he could have gotten quite a bit more tbh

Good for Pens

 

[Empoleon8771]

But using a HF poll where most fans who don't follow the Pens believe Guentzel's basically a third liner without Crosby isn't exactly going to be a neutral measurement.

Using a HF poll for anything is stupid because HF doesn't have the credibility to make an analysis by popular vote

It's a glorified popularity contest, because no one here would take the time to make informed decisions on polls they can vote on immediately. Like in the Guentzel vs Larkin thread, there are stats posted Guentzel is a good bit better offensively than Larkin and nothing to support Larkin being better, but Larkin is winning 9-4.

 

[BKarchitect]

Great deal for a really talented player. Congrats.

 

[Claypool]

I would have given him a two-year bridge deal.

 

[Sol]

Expensive deal Oof.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

like that we locked him up, but he should send some of that money to Sid.

A lot of it!

 

[Beauner]

Expensive deal Oof.

Are you aware of who Jake Guentzel is?

 

[PensandCaps]

Probably paying a bit more based on who he plays with and riding the percentages a bit, but he's a good, young player and you aren't going to get those guys locked up much under a 6 mil AAV anymore.

He's doing all his damage at 5v5. Most his playoff points are 5v5.

Most his points this year is 5v5. Imagine if he got 1stPP time all year.

So the argument that he is a product of Crosby falls short. Because he would have #1PP Time on most teams and put up similar numbers

 

[TKalltheTime]

I would have given him a two-year bridge deal.

So he can score 75 points this year and 70-80 points the next two years and then you have to sign him to a 8/9 million dollar a year deal?!??! HF “brilliance” at work UGH

 

[BStinson]

Good deal with the potential to be a great deal for the team. Can’t have enough clutch playoff performers.

 

[Vancouver Canucks]

I would have given him a two-year bridge deal.

Brutal for the Penguins, when they re-sign him two years later when he's better.

 

[Claypool]

Brutal for the Penguins, when they re-sign him two years later when he's better.

And what if he's not better?

 

[Rabid Ranger]

Well this screws us over when it comes to Kyle Connor

Nah, that will be the Laine deal.

 

[Deen]

I hope Tkachuk cools off a bit and his numbers are similar to Guentzel. Could help us signing him for less than $7.5. Good signing though.

 

[DesertPenguin]

Solid deal for both sides. 6m was the over-under I was looking at. Anything less was a steal, anything more an overpayment. This works just fine.

 

[ole ole]

Makes Nylander's contract look pretty good

Say what? One guy is on a 75 pt pace and the other [ Nylanderv] is on a 19 pt pace.

 

[domaug]

I mean... Nylander is a better player than Guentzel, so that kinda doesn't help your point that he's not overpaid.

this thread isn't about Nylander.

 

[domaug]

I wonder if the, "People who rarely watch Guentzel" argument could be the reason you don't get why Larkin is better.

By the way, I'm not saying Guentzel would be bad without Crosby... He's just not on Larkin's level.

this thread also isn't about Larkin.

 

[izzy]

this thread isn't about Nylander.

every thread is about the leafs dont ya kno

 

[WingsMJN2965]

this thread also isn't about Larkin.

You should probably track the conversation then because I said multiple times to create a separate thread and the Pens fan wanted to keep it going in here.

 

[domaug]

You should probably track the conversation then because I said multiple times to create a separate thread and the Pens fan wanted to keep it going in here.

i have a few of them on my ignore list so i didn't know about this.

it doesn't make my post incorrect though.

 

[Riptide]

Heh, I'm done de-railing this thread. I'd be much more content with the poll results. I'll put it up since you wont.

Yes because a poll is "proof" of something right?

 

[Riptide]

Some risk, due to the “Crosby effect” making mediocre wingers look great... until they don’t have Crosby as their centre.

However he is young and has looked great this year, so there is also the chance he really outperforms this contract.

A bit of a high-risk, high reward contract, but for the information we have right now the AAV seems fair for the Penguins.

Uhh no. The "risk" of waiting came with the "risk" of him asking for 7m. There is no risk with this contract - at least not any more then any other standard contract.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Nice job pens. Good young player locked up to a fair deal.