Proposal: PIT-CGY

[Pens2thecup871]

To Calgary: Karlsson
To Pittsburgh: Huberdeau

No retention on either side.

Trade is 1 for 1.

Both players are not great fits for their respective clubs. Obviously both players would have to waive their NMCs to move but Huberdeau would provide a top 6 center for the pens and basically replace Malkin after he retires.

Huberdeau has the slightly larger cap hit with more term and is younger than EK but would be a way to move his contract for Calgary while still getting an elite defenseman (using the term defenseman lightly) back.

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[Zirakzigil]

No. Last thing the Flames need is a right handed defenseman.

 

[MisterT]

No reason for Calgary to do this.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Zero chance from the Penguins.

Based on the Seth Jones trade, the Penguins should be able to get some decent futures for Karlsson with retaining him down to $7 million. Huberdeau's deal runs through 2031, so retaining on him is just not practical.

If the term left on their deals were the same or similar, I could see the logic. But Karlsson has 2 years left after this year compared to 6 for Huberdeau. Just way too much term left on Huberdeau's deal.

 

[Sideline]

Trade makes no sense for the Penguins. Karlsson has been the second best player on the team. Trading him only makes sense to rebuild, not for a change of scenery swap.

 

[Le Magnifique 66]

I'd rather deal EK separately and use that money in the off season on UFA's

 

[Flames Fanatic]

Honestly as much as I still love EK, probably pass? Unless we're moving out Andersson for a ransom.

But Huberdeau for all his faults has been a good leader if nothing else.

 

[McJedi]

No reason for Calgary to do this.

There is every reason for Calgary to do it. Would get you cap space several years sooner than waiting out Hubie. It's such a no brainer yes for the Flames. lets you trade Andersoon for peak value too. Great reset move.

 

[Bond]

Any Calgary fan saying no is crazy imo. Get out of an additional two years of a bad contract and lets them flip dmen and still shelter d prospects

 

[Zirakzigil]

There is every reason for Calgary to do it. Would get you cap space several years sooner than waiting out Hubie. It's such a no brainer yes for the Flames. lets you trade Andersoon for peak value too. Great reset move.

Flames are one of the lowest capped teams in the league. Hube has had a solid year. No the Flames would not do this.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Flames are one of the lowest capped teams in the league. Hube has had a solid year. No the Flames would not do this.

Huberdeau's deal runs for 6 more years and keeps him under contract until he's 38.

You'd be absolutely insane to say no to this.

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Seems pretty bad for both sides.

Huberdeau has been the Flames best player this year (outside of Wolf) and his cap hit is hardly a hinderance. The last thing the Flames need is more RD, they have their own EK65-esque player joining the team next year in Parekh and they still have both Ras and Weegar.

On the other hand, Pittsburgh is entering a rebuild and trading EK for a longer contract is counterproductive. They are far more inclined to retain on him and get value in futures.

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Zero chance from the Penguins.

Based on the Seth Jones trade, the Penguins should be able to get some decent futures for Karlsson with retaining him down to $7 million. Huberdeau's deal runs through 2031, so retaining on him is just not practical.

If the term left on their deals were the same or similar, I could see the logic. But Karlsson has 2 years left after this year compared to 6 for Huberdeau. Just way too much term left on Huberdeau's deal.

Basically.

Doesn't help Calgary doesn't need RD either.

Just not a deal happening either side.

 

[RasmusAndersson]

No. Last thing the Flames need is a right handed defenseman.

I mean, I don’t think this is accurate at all. Rasmus could very well be traded in the next year and Weegar prefers LD. Beyond that we have a 3rd pair RHD in Pachal and some prospects that could be 2-3 years away. We’ve had Barrie in the lineup this year lol. We definitely could use some short term RHD depth, and Karlsson’s contract is up in 2 years

No reason for Calgary to do this.

Except, you know, the ~40 million dollars in cap savings when we aren’t a contender.

I get Huberdeau has been better this year but saying the Flames have no reason to do this is completely inaccurate. Sure you could say we don’t need the cap savings now, but in 3 years when he’s 34 and still making 10.5 mil for 50 points I definitely think we would have a massive incentive to move him.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Huberdeau's deal runs for 6 more years and keeps him under contract until he's 38.

You'd be absolutely insane to say no to this.

And?

The cap is going up significantly, The Flames are in a playoff spot. Hube is their leading scorer. Why are the Flames trading that for a 4th right handed shot defenceman? Cause "mu capspace" in the future? There is absolutely zero reason or chance the Flames would entertain this. It doesnt address any need now and or in the future. The Flames could care less about cap space 2-3-4-5 years down the road.

 

[Jay Gray]

This deal would be uniquely terrible for both players and both teams.

 

[Zirakzigil]

I mean, I don’t think this is accurate at all. Rasmus could very well be traded in the next year and Weegar prefers LD. Beyond that we have a 3rd pair RHD in Pachal and some prospects that could be 2-3 years away. We’ve had Barrie in the lineup this year lol. We definitely could use some short term RHD depth, and Karlsson’s contract is up in 2 years


Except, you know, the ~40 million dollars in cap savings when we aren’t a contender.

I get Huberdeau has been better this year but saying the Flames have no reason to do this is completely inaccurate. Sure you could say we don’t need the cap savings now, but in 3 years when he’s 34 and still making 10.5 mil for 50 points I definitely think we would have a massive incentive to move him.

Ras isnt being traded now. And may not be this summer. By all accounts Conroy is trying to sign him to an extension. The Flames are also currently in a playoff spot. There is no reason for the Flames to do this trade. And in the future all Karlsson does is block Parekh.

 

[Empoleon8771]

And?

The cap is going up significantly, The Flames are in a playoff spot. Hube is their leading scorer. Why are the Flames trading that for a 4th right handed shot defenceman? Cause "mu capspace" in the future? There is absolutely zero reason or chance the Flames would entertain this. It doesnt address any need now and or in the future. The Flames could care less about cap space 2-3-4-5 years down the road.

Saying "the cap is rising" as a justification to keep a 50-60 point player signed for 6 years at $10.5 million a year is wild. Huberdeau's contract is literally the worst contract in hockey.

The reason Calgary does this deal is because Karlsson is infinitely easier to trade than Huberdeau. Which is exactly why the Penguins wouldn't do this deal, they're trading a tradeable bad deal for an untradeable bad deal.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Saying "the cap is rising" as a justification to keep a 50-60 point player signed for 6 years at $10.5 million a year is wild. Huberdeau's contract is literally the worst contract in hockey.

Sounds just like someone who looks at the Flames stats and not what the team says. Hes not even close to the worst contract in the league.

 

[RasmusAndersson]

Flames are one of the lowest capped teams in the league. Hube has had a solid year. No the Flames would not do this.

This is such a short-sighted opinion imo. What about 2027-2031 when we try to contend but have to deal with a 50 point, 10.5 million dollar one dimensional winger who is 34-38?

Pittsburgh would never do this deal in a million years for that reason alone.

 

[Empoleon8771]

Sounds just like someone who looks at the Flames stats and not what the team says. Hes not even close to the worst contract in the league.

Name literally any contract in hockey that is worse than Huberdeau's.

It is by far the worst contract in hockey, it's not even close.

 

[Lunatik]

Saying "the cap is rising" as a justification to keep a 50-60 point player signed for 6 years at $10.5 million a year is wild. Huberdeau's contract is literally the worst contract in hockey.

The reason Calgary does this deal is because Karlsson is infinitely easier to trade than Huberdeau. Which is exactly why the Penguins wouldn't do this deal, they're trading a tradeable bad deal for an untradeable bad deal.

If Huberdeau was traded to teh Pens, he wouldn't even be the worst contract on their roster

Name literally any contract in hockey that is worse than Huberdeau's.

It is by far the worst contract in hockey, it's not even close.

What an asinine statement. Look at your own roster, Ryan Graves is a worse contract.

 

[Zirakzigil]

Name literally any contract in hockey that is worse than Huberdeau's.

It is by far the worst contract in hockey, it's not even close.

Nurse, Pettersson, Benn, Backstrom, Dubios, Couture, Lindholm, Hayes.

 

[Lunatik]

Nurse, Pettersson, Benn, Backstrom, Dubios, Couture, Lindholm, Hayes.

Ryan Graves, Nikita Zadorov

 

[Empoleon8771]

If Huberdeau was traded to teh Pens, he wouldn't even be the worst contract on their roster

Yes he would. Again, Huberdeau has by far the worst contract in hockey.

Graves' deal is horrible without a doubt, but you can buy him out. Huberdeau's deal is buyout proof, has a full NMC for a majority of the deal and has 6 years left at $10.5 million.

Nurse, Pettersson, Benn, Backstrom, Dubios, Couture, Lindholm, Hayes.

Literally none of these deals are worse than Huberdeau's deal.