OT: Pirates Talk: That Skenes guy is okay at teh baseball

[Fogel]

Pittsburgh signed Darell Morel for $1,778,600 and Johan De Los Santos for 2.25M. Fangraphs had De Los Santos as FV40+ and Morel as FV40.

 

[MrBrightside]

 

[Empoleon8771]

It's annoying how dragged out the Saski thing was when it was painfully obvious he was going to the Dodgers.

Just another example of how fundamentally broken baseball is.

 

[cookthebooks]

the dodgers have basically ruined baseball for me

 

[Fogel]

Not the Yankees before the luxury tax?

I don't think Sasaki to the Dodgers was a foregone conclusion. As good as the Dodgers are at maximizing pitchers, their pitchers are pretty fragile. Mariners would have been an interesting choice because they have some pitching coaching mojo going right now.

 

[ChaosAgent]

Not the Yankees before the luxury tax?

I don't think Sasaki to the Dodgers was a foregone conclusion. As good as the Dodgers are at maximizing pitchers, their pitchers are pretty fragile. Mariners would have been an interesting choice because they have some pitching coaching mojo going right now.

I think it has shown that the Dodgers are now the default team in our league, like a Real Madrid in Spain, Man City in England, Paris St. Germain or Bayern Munich.

It's a little antithetical to how we do sports in the US. But baseball is different, and Los Angeles does have systemic advantages (weather, pretty women, diverse population, access to direct flights to home countries) that other places don't have. The only downside are the taxes.

 

[cookthebooks]

Not the Yankees before the luxury tax?

I don't think Sasaki to the Dodgers was a foregone conclusion. As good as the Dodgers are at maximizing pitchers, their pitchers are pretty fragile. Mariners would have been an interesting choice because they have some pitching coaching mojo going right now.

no the yankees were always so rich and stupid while the dodgers are so rich and smart

 

[ImporterExporter]

Yeah, I'm done with this league officially. It's into the NBA realm now, which is a league I haven't watched consistently in well over a decade. The NFL will be next up if I had to guess.

 

[Fogel]

Blue Jays swung a trade for more international money so their pool is a little more than 8M now.

 

[MrBrightside]

 

[Empoleon8771]

Every single time I see the Pirates dumpster diving for scraps while leaving the RF position open, I get more and more annoyed.

 

[Ulf5]

Blue Jays swung a trade for more international money so their pool is a little more than 8M now.

I was hoping it was for Sasaki, alas it's for naught.

Roki Sasaki To Sign With Dodgers

Japanese right-hander Roki Sasaki announced that he will sign with the Dodgers. Read more at MLB Trade Rumors.

www.mlbtraderumors.com

 

[Empoleon8771]

This kind of shit just reinforces cheap owners to be cheap. Why spend money when you simply cannot contend with the Dodgers?

 

[Jaded-Fan]

This kind of shit just reinforces cheap owners to be cheap. Why spend money when you simply cannot contend with the Dodgers?

It's not fair to focus on owners who take advantage of the system. Or to excuse their actions either.

The old trope of don't blame the player, blame the game applies.

Cheap owners are going to cheap no matter what as the system is a money making machine. I don't blame Nutting if I am going to be fair. If someone gave me a billion dollars to have nasty things said about me, I wouldn't even think twice.

In a perverse way this is actually good for baseball. The more unbalanced they get and top heavy the sooner things might change as they lose fans.

 

[WickedWrister]

Lol these are some incredible fan questions and typical PR speak from the organization

https://www.post-gazette.com/sports/pirates/2025/01/18/bob-nutting-pirates-piratesfest-andrew-mccutchen/stories/202501170081

 

[since70]

I understand the fan frustration, but any free agent player unless they're trying to get a rebound contract, or no one else offered them a major league deal there's no reason to sign with the Pirates, it's a poorly run organization from the top down. Scouting, player evaluations, development, and the major league on field management and product all suck, at this point it's not the lack of spending because we all expect that, it's the fact after years of bad decisions they've made themselves a destination of last resort for any players they didn't draft. I always joke with my friends when we discuss possible free agents that the Pirates scouts and FO look at the back of the remaining players baseball cards, it's like, oh look he did this in 2019, or 2022, let's sign him, maybe we'll get lucky.

 

[Factorial]

I understand the fan frustration, but any free agent player unless they're trying to get a rebound contract, or no one else offered them a major league deal there's no reason to sign with the Pirates, it's a poorly run organization from the top down. Scouting, player evaluations, development, and the major league on field management and product all suck, at this point it's not the lack of spending because we all expect that, it's the fact after years of bad decisions they've made themselves a destination of last resort for any players they didn't draft. I always joke with my friends when we discuss possible free agents that the Pirates scouts and FO look at the back of the remaining players baseball cards, it's like, oh look he did this in 2019, or 2022, let's sign him, maybe we'll get lucky.

Sadly, that's all true.