Maybe if it were just this stunt, but to act like the pirates have done anything to encourage talent to stay is a bit disingenuous. The best young pitcher in the game in years is not going to stick around with a cheapskate ownership.
OT: Pirates Talk: That Skenes guy is okay at teh baseball
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Maybe if it were just this stunt, but to act like the pirates have done anything to encourage talent to stay is a bit disingenuous. The best young pitcher in the game in years is not going to stick around with a cheapskate ownership.
Jaded-Fan
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There are many reasons to criticize ownership and the team. But face it. Skenes was gone the day he hit free agency on the day he was drafted. And Pittsburgh is a last resort signing for nearly every free agent already.
It was a complete dick move.
But it also was completely irrelevant to attracting or keeping talented players in free agency. That ship has been gone for decades.
acting like telez has any bearing on what was preordained for skenes seems silly to me
BusinessGoose
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Lol, truth. He was never gonna be a lifer here.
But it's like, professionalism is gonna have him have to waste his great arm for a losing ass team that actively tries to lose.
Hope his insane personal motivation and drive see him through.
Empoleon8771
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Idk I think it's just silly to talk about Skenes leaving when he's literally not going anywhere for at least 4+ years. At least wait until he hits arbitration to make those kind of posts.
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The Pirates could keep him if they wanted to and Skenes could become the greatest pitcher in franchise history. Hopefully Cherington is gone well before this becomes an issue.
Jaded-Fan
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Several were posting articles and making claims that this POS move by Nutting will impact future FA signings including Skenes. I merely was addressing the silliness of connecting the two.
ImporterExporter
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Signing Skenes only works if you remove the other long term contracts off the books beforehand. Meaning Keller will be gone. Hayes will be gone. Reynolds will be gone.
DJ Spinoza
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I don't think it's worth talking about Skenes too much given how much of a dumpster fire everything else has turned into in the latter half of the year. Maybe he would sign a deal that sacrifices a year of free agency in order to lock in money in the event of injury. But it likely doesn't matter -- as long as he stays mostly healthy, he will hit the top rung of what's possible in arbitration with how good he is.
Even if he misses on some of that money, whenever he hits free agency he will get a huge contract unless some kind of injury completely changes how good he is (and that's just how good he is in his first season -- while it's fair to say that the league will try to adjust to him, I think it's even more fair to say that Skenes will probably continue to get better as he gets even more experience).
Regardless of all that, this is obviously extraordinarily embarrassing. It probably doesn't matter due to the pathetic way we operate in free agency, but it's just one more ridiculous BS thing to have to deal with surround this joke of an organization.
Maybe it's just the pace of things for me, but I find myself seriously unable to even stomach the team anymore. Normally I will at least care a little bit about not being able to see Pirates baseball (as bad as it is) until April of next year, but I'm basically just checked out other than Skenes' start this weekend. f*** this organization.
Even if he misses on some of that money, whenever he hits free agency he will get a huge contract unless some kind of injury completely changes how good he is (and that's just how good he is in his first season -- while it's fair to say that the league will try to adjust to him, I think it's even more fair to say that Skenes will probably continue to get better as he gets even more experience).
Regardless of all that, this is obviously extraordinarily embarrassing. It probably doesn't matter due to the pathetic way we operate in free agency, but it's just one more ridiculous BS thing to have to deal with surround this joke of an organization.
Maybe it's just the pace of things for me, but I find myself seriously unable to even stomach the team anymore. Normally I will at least care a little bit about not being able to see Pirates baseball (as bad as it is) until April of next year, but I'm basically just checked out other than Skenes' start this weekend. f*** this organization.
