OT: Pirates Talk: Lets Play Ball

[Booker T]

Tarp is coming off!

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Game is supposed to start at 10pm.

 

[Factorial]

Astros play at 7:10 tomorrow against Cleveland in Cleveland.

 

[ImporterExporter]

Konnor Griffin looks like a very legitimate superstar in the making. The Bucs are generally slow to roll guys along each level, but he really deserves to get a bump to Greensboro soon.

 

[Factorial]

Graig Nettles level play by Hayes.

 

[Factorial]

"Two out lightning by the Bucs."

 

[BusinessGoose]

Ugly

 

[Booker T]

Glad I fell asleep.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Endy career is looking bust. Left with right elbow issues again.

 

[Coastal Kev]

Davis with a yoke

 

[TooManyHumans]

Nice win.

 

[Factorial]

Nice win.

I was watching the Philly feed and the post game show co host was outraged they lost to the Pirates. Didn't hear his name but probably an ex Philly.

f*** the Phillies.

 

[BusinessGoose]

I'll accept that win

 

[BusinessGoose]

Times 2

 

[Factorial]

Beat a really bad team from Philly again.

 

[Factorial]

These Philly post game hosts are real losers. One is someone name Ricky Botallico. The other is on old man who referred to the Pirates as "The Stinkin' Pirates" and then went on to mock Heaney's last name.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Botallico was a former reliever, might even have been a closer for a few years.

Not really memorable.

 

[DJ Spinoza]

It's nice to have some wins, though I am also really not liking the fawning over Kelly.

On the one hand, sure, Shelton was a deserved scapegoat (overdue if anything), but the turn to overly praising Shelton is only going to serve to give cover for the more important structural issues with the team: Cherington/player development/offense and Nutting's cheapness.

But whatever, it's basically just vibes at this point so it's nice to see competitive baseball. Also nice to see some small success for Davis.

 

[DJ Spinoza]

 

[ChaosAgent]

It's nice to have some wins, though I am also really not liking the fawning over Kelly.

On the one hand, sure, Shelton was a deserved scapegoat (overdue if anything), but the turn to overly praising Shelton is only going to serve to give cover for the more important structural issues with the team: Cherington/player development/offense and Nutting's cheapness.

But whatever, it's basically just vibes at this point so it's nice to see competitive baseball. Also nice to see some small success for Davis.

I don't think Cherington survives unless they better the 76 wins. GMs don't get fired at this time of year.

Even in the wind, the offensive ineptitude is so staggering and it is recognized that he is as culpable as Nutting there.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

I don't think Cherington survives unless they better the 76 wins. GMs don't get fired at this time of year.

Even in the wind, the offensive ineptitude is so staggering and it is recognized that he is as culpable as Nutting there.

I'd bet he's a dead man walking, but it doesn't make sense to keep him around at this point, he's not going to suddenly become competent.

Heck, he could set the team further back the longer he sticks around.

****ing ***hole actually made the team worse.

 

[DJ Spinoza]

I don't think Cherington survives unless they better the 76 wins. GMs don't get fired at this time of year.

Even in the wind, the offensive ineptitude is so staggering and it is recognized that he is as culpable as Nutting there.

Yeah, I think that's probably right. What I worry about is a decent enough finish to the season that somehow still gives him cover. I haven't really looked at what that would be overall.

I don't think he should be fired right now, just because that doesn't make much logistical sense. I don't really have any good answers for how else that should look (i.e., presumably since there's not going to be a full rebuild just yet, the status of trading Keller is pretty tricky, and whether that should be left to Cherington if he's a sitting duck is at minimum an open question).

For the record, I don't think he's a sitting duck just yet, but I think the end of the season will loom large for what actually happens. It's possible that any "big piece" decisions at the deadline will just be dictated by ownership, but I guess in theory, if BC thinks he is trying to audition to keep his job, it might mean he is less willing to move any of the bigger pieces, assuming he has a say.

 

[TooManyHumans]

Davis has crazy power. I thought that home run was a popup and it went out to the deep part.

 

[bigdaddyk88]

Yeah, I think that's probably right. What I worry about is a decent enough finish to the season that somehow still gives him cover. I haven't really looked at what that would be overall.

I don't think he should be fired right now, just because that doesn't make much logistical sense. I don't really have any good answers for how else that should look (i.e., presumably since there's not going to be a full rebuild just yet, the status of trading Keller is pretty tricky, and whether that should be left to Cherington if he's a sitting duck is at minimum an open question).

For the record, I don't think he's a sitting duck just yet, but I think the end of the season will loom large for what actually happens. It's possible that any "big piece" decisions at the deadline will just be dictated by ownership, but I guess in theory, if BC thinks he is trying to audition to keep his job, it might mean he is less willing to move any of the bigger pieces, assuming he has a say.

What might save him is if the bats he drafted Davis Johnson and Griffin look like they are going to be good. Jebb in AA Yorke starting to hit in AAA