WickedWrister
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"SELL THE TEAM" chants are coming through crystal clear on both broadcasts ... this could get ugly
OT: Pirates Talk: Lets Play Ball
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ChaosAgent
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BusinessGoose
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Cutch deserves some credit. As someone who gets annoyed as him being DH most games...
He's like the only guy who wants to play for this team, and his old ass creaky knees just got a catch to end a screwed up inning
And he's like our best bat lol
What a team lol
Sidenote... Canario sucks
He's like the only guy who wants to play for this team, and his old ass creaky knees just got a catch to end a screwed up inning
And he's like our best bat lol
What a team lol
Sidenote... Canario sucks
BusinessGoose
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I say, striking Judge out twice counts as a good game from Keller. Score be Damned... A loss of 2-1 or 12-1 doesn't matter for us.
WickedWrister
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Like what is even the point of owning a sports team if you are universally despised by the entire fanbase. You don't get to play with your toy.
WickedWrister
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Well the team apparently wasn't even profitable last year so he should cash out and 10x on his investment
ImporterExporter
"You're a boring old man"
Nutting makes a shitload to keep the team exactly where it is. It's not rocket science folks. Seriously, look up MLB revenue sharing and see how much money is being literally given to Nutting and other small market clubs.
There is absolutely no incentive to improve when you're making 10 figures per year in profit, while spending the absolute bear f***ing minimum across all aspects of the franchise. MLB doesn't give a shit because Pittsburgh isn't a bankable market. And in half a decade, they'll be finalizing a deal to move the team to somewhere that is. I'd bet my retirement on it.
There is absolutely no incentive to improve when you're making 10 figures per year in profit, while spending the absolute bear f***ing minimum across all aspects of the franchise. MLB doesn't give a shit because Pittsburgh isn't a bankable market. And in half a decade, they'll be finalizing a deal to move the team to somewhere that is. I'd bet my retirement on it.
TooManyHumans
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I don't think they'll move the team. They'll just look to expand. More money that way.
Empoleon8771
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No chance the other owners let the Pirates move. Baseball has existed in Pittsburgh since the mid 1800s and the Pirates have existed since like 1880. Zero chance they'd let approve a sale to someone that would move the team.
The Pirates moving would be like the Reds moving. The MLB simply will not allow it to happen.
The Pirates moving would be like the Reds moving. The MLB simply will not allow it to happen.
ImporterExporter
"You're a boring old man"
You guys are not considering that the bottom line speaks the loudest. If another market brings more money and more fans, they'll absolutely consider it.
Nostalgia just isn't as important as it used to be.
Nostalgia just isn't as important as it used to be.
Empoleon8771
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Pittsburgh is a bigger market than Cincinnati is, and zero people are thinking the Reds are at risk of moving.
The only relocations in the MLB in the last 50 years are Montreal going to Washington and Oakland going to Vegas. Neither of those teams had the history of the Pirates and both were leaving worse markets (for baseball at least) than Pittsburgh.
Coastal Kev
There will be "I told you so's" Bet on it
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JordanStaal#1Fan
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There will be "I told you so's" Bet on it
Maybe he's just feeling a little guilty regarding the contract he signed.
BusinessGoose
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Considering the issues the Athletics and Rays are having with moving... I dont fear it
The team is bad and yeah there's no incentive from the owner to do anything else
It is what it is. MLB needed a salary cap twenty years ago. Everyone is fine with this. Dunno when we'll ever be winners again.
The team is bad and yeah there's no incentive from the owner to do anything else
It is what it is. MLB needed a salary cap twenty years ago. Everyone is fine with this. Dunno when we'll ever be winners again.
MrBrightside
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It’s all he ever posts. His shtick a few years ago was the team was really close to winning and he was a douchebag to anyone who disagreed. Now he’s shifted to this. I have no idea why people get pleasure out of that stuff.
Literally a report less than a month old that theyve lost money the last 5 years.
Big McLargehuge
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Pittsburgh's roots with the game go back too far for MLB to approve a move, I legitimately believe that. Maybe if there's a decade-long saga where no owner can be found...again...then maybe it'd be considered, but in this market? With this nice of a stadium? We're sooner to get 32 teams than see a team from the 19th century move. I fully expect 32 teams to happen within a decade because that's how the pyramid scheme that sports team ownership is works. Moving the Pirates wouldn't be nearly as profitable as an expansion team would be, and we have a good stadium. We're safe. For now, at least.
If the A's played in a quasi-tolerable park I don't think this charade would have been allowed to happen. I've been to the Coliseum and it's every bit as bad as advertised, if not worse...and that was a decade ago. It was like Pitt Stadium at the end; just piss stains and exposed rebar. I hate that the A's were allowed to move, but moving is in that franchise's DNA...and that stadium was completely unacceptable. Do I think it's better than a minor league stadium? f*** yeah, this Sacramento shit is shameful and Fisher should have been pressured to sell locally. Still...big difference between a franchise that's moved multiple times without a proper home and a franchise that's been in the same market since the Cleveland administration in a great stadium.
You also have to look at who is looking for a team. MLB isn't going to sacrifice the Pirates to expand to f***ing Portland. If Houston or Atlanta needed a team, we may well be f***ed...but if the next in line are the likes of Portland, Nashville, & Indianapolis...we're safe. Just force the sale to a local owner...lord knows the structure exists to be profitable. Especially when a good stadium exists.
The ravages of age will eventually hit PNC Park, it's already lost some luster...but none of the issues are structural. The A's were flooded with sewage damn near annually and the coliseum is literally falling apart. It's older than Three Rivers was, had a worse design, and hadn't been effectively maintained for decades. Consistent maintenance is all that's necessary to make PNC Park last 2-4 times as long as its predecessor. It was well-built and amazingly designed. MLB has always struggled to have enough stadiums built in its niche configuration and we have that. Had this stadium never been built then we'd have no hope of keeping this team, but that feels unfair to say a quarter century after the fact.
If someone tries to buy this team and gets rebuffed...that's a potential expansion franchise that'd cost multitudes more than the Pirates or PNC Park ever did. Again, cities don't just hand out stadiums this way anymore and PNC Park was built at what is an absurd discount by modern standards. What AAA team is playing in a ML-quality stadium? None.
So, uh, Nutting...you aren't a savior. You are useless. You are worse than useless. f*** off and die. Say what you will about McClatchey, but he didn't have money and he got the stadium built. You've just made us suffer.
If the A's played in a quasi-tolerable park I don't think this charade would have been allowed to happen. I've been to the Coliseum and it's every bit as bad as advertised, if not worse...and that was a decade ago. It was like Pitt Stadium at the end; just piss stains and exposed rebar. I hate that the A's were allowed to move, but moving is in that franchise's DNA...and that stadium was completely unacceptable. Do I think it's better than a minor league stadium? f*** yeah, this Sacramento shit is shameful and Fisher should have been pressured to sell locally. Still...big difference between a franchise that's moved multiple times without a proper home and a franchise that's been in the same market since the Cleveland administration in a great stadium.
You also have to look at who is looking for a team. MLB isn't going to sacrifice the Pirates to expand to f***ing Portland. If Houston or Atlanta needed a team, we may well be f***ed...but if the next in line are the likes of Portland, Nashville, & Indianapolis...we're safe. Just force the sale to a local owner...lord knows the structure exists to be profitable. Especially when a good stadium exists.
The ravages of age will eventually hit PNC Park, it's already lost some luster...but none of the issues are structural. The A's were flooded with sewage damn near annually and the coliseum is literally falling apart. It's older than Three Rivers was, had a worse design, and hadn't been effectively maintained for decades. Consistent maintenance is all that's necessary to make PNC Park last 2-4 times as long as its predecessor. It was well-built and amazingly designed. MLB has always struggled to have enough stadiums built in its niche configuration and we have that. Had this stadium never been built then we'd have no hope of keeping this team, but that feels unfair to say a quarter century after the fact.
If someone tries to buy this team and gets rebuffed...that's a potential expansion franchise that'd cost multitudes more than the Pirates or PNC Park ever did. Again, cities don't just hand out stadiums this way anymore and PNC Park was built at what is an absurd discount by modern standards. What AAA team is playing in a ML-quality stadium? None.
So, uh, Nutting...you aren't a savior. You are useless. You are worse than useless. f*** off and die. Say what you will about McClatchey, but he didn't have money and he got the stadium built. You've just made us suffer.
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