Pinto opens up over his suspension

[Nogatco Rd]

... That's kinda the point. It's the fact that this is essentially being equated to Voynov beating the piss out of his wife.

Yeah and I’m saying you could just as easily say Voynov should have been suspended twice as long, instead of saying that this suspension is too short.

Doesn’t matter either way because the initial comparison is based on a false premise. Voynov was suspended “indefinitely” during the 2014-2015 season, which amounted to 76 games. He was later suspended an additional 82 games after that. An arbitrator later ruled that by sitting out for the full 2017-2018 season, he would be credited with 41 games games served, and would have to serve an additional 41 should he sign a contract in the NHL.

So he was actually suspended 158 games.

Which by comparison makes the Pinto suspension quite reasonable, wouldn’t you agree?

 

[Golden_Jet]

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Seriously though - the difference in suspensions between this and other terrible acts, is those terrible acts do not potentially impact the integrity of the game. Voynov's domestic altercation, or Mike Richards import/export activities don't impact our corporate overlords. The gambling entities can't have their potential customers think the fix might be in, which is why NBA just banned a player (Jontay Porter) for life.

Let’s get rid of the gambling sponsors then, they’re just annoying.

 

[Crazy Cizikas]

Everyone and their mother knew things like this would happen when SCOTUS opened up sports betting.

Yup. And it will get worse. It’ll be a disaster until people are forced to shift their priorities.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Yeah and I’m saying you could just as easily say Voynov should have been suspended twice as long, instead of saying that this suspension is too short.

Doesn’t matter either way because the initial comparison is based on a false premise. Voynov was suspended “indefinitely” during the 2014-2015 season, which amounted to 76 games. He was later suspended an additional 82 games after that. An arbitrator later ruled that by sitting out for the full 2017-2018 season, he would be credited with 41 games games served, and would have to serve an additional 41 should he sign a contract in the NHL.

So he was actually suspended 158 games.

Which by comparison makes the Pinto suspension quite reasonable, wouldn’t you agree?

Nope.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Nope.

Next time just say you don’t think people should be suspended that long for gambling rather than coming up with a faux morality argument, you’ll save yourself some embarrassment

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

Next time just say you don’t think people should be suspended that long for gambling rather than coming up with a faux morality argument, you’ll save yourself some embarrassment

Next time read between the lines of "Let's not suspend a guy who didn't gamble on his sport as long as we suspended a wife beater".

All while ignoring that I also brought up the ridiculousness that there are certain players who deliberately intend to injure and go unchecked.

Take your dick measuring contest elsewhere, bud. Really don't give a shit if you agree.

 

[Nogatco Rd]

Next time read between the lines of "Let's not suspend a guy who didn't gamble on his sport as long as we suspended a wife beater".

All while ignoring that I also brought up the ridiculousness that there are certain players who deliberately intend to injure and go unchecked.

Take your dick measuring contest elsewhere, bud. Really don't give a shit if you agree.

They suspended him 1/4 as long as the wife beater. That’s the point. Have a good day.

 

[Cas]

Professional athletes should not be involved in gambling.

 

[NVious]

Promote gambling to consumers who don't have 1/10th of the revenue you have to blow on gambling? No problem!

Gamble yourself?!?! Bad guy!!

"Shane Pinto is a disgusting human being" Matt Cooke

 

[VaCaps Fan]

Shane Pinto is honest and accountable…

 

[Kingfan1967]

You mean Wayne and Connor don't actually use the gambling services they promote?

 

[HabzSauce]

I don't understand why aren't players allowed to bet on different sports?

41 game suspension and for all we know it was some random bowling match on a different continent. Doesnt make sense to me

 

[Kegu]

I don't understand why aren't players allowed to bet on different sports?

41 game suspension and for all we know it was some random bowling match on a different continent. Doesnt make sense to me

They are. Proxy betting was the nono. Tell me you didnt read the OP without telling me.

 

[viper0220]

Dirty dirty gambler

With the way the league is promoting gambling, it’s dumb to call him a “dirty gambler”, also if he did not bet on NHL, I don’t know what the big deal is.

Professional athletes should not be involved in gambling.

The Calgary Flames had poker tournaments and Flames players would play in them.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

With the way the league is promoting gambling, it’s dumb to call him a “dirty gambler”, also if he did not bet on NHL, I don’t know what the big deal is.

Its the proxy betting. Does no one read?

 

[Sasha Orlov]

So f***ing stupid to suspend someone for this when the league actively promotes gambling

Also Pete Rose should be in the baseball HOF while we’re at it

 

[Nothingbutglass]

It's bizarre that no one is understanding the proxy part. Its the reason he was suspended.

 

[Golden_Jet]

They suspended him 1/4 as long as the wife beater. That’s the point. Have a good day.

Tocchet got 3 months from Bettman, and was basically a bookie.
Tocchet did take a leave of absence for 2 years, for trial, to get his ducks/ life in order.

 

[Cas]

Also Pete Rose should be in the baseball HOF while we’re at it

Pete Rose is garbage and deserves his banishment.

 

[Golden_Jet]

It's bizarre that no one is understanding the proxy part. Its the reason he was suspended.

I think most understand the proxy part, they just think 1/2 season was a bit strong.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

It's bizarre that no one is understanding the proxy part. Its the reason he was suspended.

Understand it completely, still think it’s stupid

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

They suspended him 1/4 as long as the wife beater. That’s the point. Have a good day.

You certainly have a rosy way of interpreting the Voynov situation, that's for sure...

He was suspended indefinitely in 14-15 because he was actively being charged with a violent felony.

You're claiming that he "Sat out" the entire 17-18 season (It was 18-19) when the reality is that after he plead guilty in 2015, he jetted off to Russia to avoid deportation hearings. He conveniently wanted to come back once his probation was over and his conviction was dismissed in the summer of 2018. He had the option of signing in the KHL. He didn't. That's not their f***ing problem. Then he ate a 41 game suspension in 19-20 with half of it ruled "Time served".

 

[Nothingbutglass]

I think most understand the proxy part, they just think 1/2 season was a bit strong.

I dunno, NFL and NBA have already indefinitely banned plenty of players. Its definitely setting a line for future cases.

 

[Golden_Jet]

I dunno, NFL and NBA have already indefinitely banned plenty of players. Its definitely setting a line for future cases.

Ya now compare those
Basketball guy was influencing his own teams games he bet on.
No idea on NFL one.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Ya now compare those
Basketball guy was influencing his own teams games he bet on.
No idea on NFL one.

Many NFL ones were for placing bets within team facilities. If they went across the street and did the bet they'd be fine. Gambling is potential 3rd rail for sports leagues. Its zero tolerance for violating the rules. I suspect most were just people not knowing the specific rules for betting in their league and not nefarious.