Rumor: Pinto and OTT not talking. Could ask for trade..

[Kegu]

The team lowballed him last year at the start of free agency. Then, when his suspension came down, they used it to force him into a league min contract. Why would he be happy about that?

It wasn't the first or second time his agent had a client hold out until October or later, unfortunately for Pinto he got suspended while his agent had him playing hard ball.
The Sens very easily could have said tough luck you reap what you sow see ya next year.

 

[Prairie Habs]

It wasn't the first or second time his agent had a client hold out until October or later, unfortunately for Pinto he got suspended while his agent had him playing hard ball.
The Sens very easily could have said tough luck you reap what you sow see ya next year.

How benevolent of them to offer a 20 goal scorer league min, then. You realize that Pinto is a sentient being and if they treat him like shit he'll want to leave? Just because the COULD have done something worse doesn't mean he can't be pissed at the shitty thing they did to him.

 

[Kegu]

How benevolent of them to offer a 20 goal scorer league min, then. You realize that Pinto is a sentient being and if they treat him like shit he'll want to leave? Just because the COULD have done something worse doesn't mean he can't be pissed at the shitty thing they did to him.

And Pinto didn't have to go and get himself suspended. End of the day the Sens were backed into a corner and were going to need to make moves to fit in Pinto, his suspension changed that.
Are you suggesting the new management / ownership in place was supposed to reward him after missing half the season due to suspension?

 

[Prairie Habs]

And Pinto didn't have to go and get himself suspended. End of the day the Sens were backed into a corner and were going to need to make moves to fit in Pinto, his suspension changed that.
Are you suggesting the new management / ownership in place was supposed to reward him after missing half the season due to suspension?

They never had room for him before the suspension, so I'm not sure why you are using it to justify anything. They could have either made room for someone they consider a core piece, or they could do what they did and potentially burn a very important bridge to help out their cap for half a season in a year where they were going nowhere.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

This may get buried but what would Ottawa be looking for?

 

[Altimus]

This may get buried but what would Ottawa be looking for?

For Pinto to sign? He isn't on the trade block.

 

[Silky Johnson]

WTF is Staios doing?

Note: Sanderson includes his 0.850 bonus, and Ullmark includes Korpisalo's buyout.
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Uhmmm? Trade Joseph and replace with ELC....

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

For Pinto to sign? He isn't on the trade block.

Not all players are on the trade block prior to being traded

 

[Breeze 44]

Welcome to Philly ..

 

[Kegu]

They never had room for him before the suspension, so I'm not sure why you are using it to justify anything. They could have either made room for someone they consider a core piece, or they could do what they did and potentially burn a very important bridge to help out their cap for half a season in a year where they were going nowhere.

The league minimum contract doesn't happen if he doesn't get suspended. He got suspended, he's not owed any favors by new management. None of this means he was treated like crap. His agent is notorious for playing hard ball, and while I don't blame him, that surely doesn't mean that we have to acquiesce to his demands.

 

[Mersss]

For Pinto to sign? He isn't on the trade block.

Offer sheet at 6.3 for 1 year

Ott needs to match or gets a 1st and a 3rd

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Offer sheet at 6.3 for 1 year

Ott needs to match or gets a 1st and a 3rd

We’ll match.

 

[Mersss]

We’ll match.

Can't trade him for the year then. And redo next year with a much higher price for his QO.

Be my guest!

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Can't trade him for the year then. And redo next year with a much higher price for his QO.

Be my guest!

Wouldn’t that be the same fate for the team that signs him?

Also, the thing needs to get signed first.

 

[Mersss]

Wouldn’t that be the same fate for the team that signs him?

Also, the thing needs to get signed first.

Sure, but who cares?

Sens would need to then proceed to cut caps. And need to find space to sign Ullmark a prob substantial raise. It has a huge impact

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Sure, but who cares?

Sens would need to then proceed to cut caps. And need to find space to sign Ullmark a prob substantial raise. It has a huge impact

Well, I’d like to know which teams that have the cap space to do that are willing to send over an unprotected 1st for next year.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Sure, but who cares?

Sens would need to then proceed to cut caps. And need to find space to sign Ullmark a prob substantial raise. It has a huge impact

You'll care when the Sens send a big offer sheet to your team's RFA in response.

 

[KevinRedkey]

Uhmmm? Trade Joseph and replace with ELC....

As if teams are lining up to take Joseph...

 

[Gil Gunderson]

As if teams are lining up to take Joseph...

Do you think he would pass through waivers?

 

[Mersss]

You'll care when the Sens send a big offer sheet to your team's RFA in response.

1- Not like Ott has the cap space to do so
2- With how they have been doing lately, do you really want Ottawa to lose a 1st rder? Lol

If I am MTL I am jumping on this...

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Would be lethal, and OTT cant retaliate as all our top RFA are signed LT

 

[Gil Gunderson]

1- Not like Ott has the cap space to do so
2- With how they have been doing lately, do you really want Ottawa to lose a 1st rder? Lol

If I am MTL I am jumping on this...

Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield
Demidov-Pinto-Dach
Roy-Newhook-Beck

Would be lethal, and OTT cant retaliate as all our top RFA are signed LT

They’re free to try. It’s July 1st.

I’m pretty sure he wants a long-term deal btw.

 

[Mrfenn92]

1- Not like Ott has the cap space to do so
2- With how they have been doing lately, do you really want Ottawa to lose a 1st rder? Lol

If I am MTL I am jumping on this...

Slaf-Suzuki-Caufield
Demidov-Pinto-Dach
Roy-Newhook-Beck

Would be lethal, and OTT cant retaliate as all our top RFA are signed LT

So your team is losing a first to get pinto

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I believe you can give Pinto 8 years if you're signing him, but that will likely mean you're giving up 4 1sts as I believe for the offer sheet compensation it's based off of 5 years.

The good news is you can choose which years you give up those 4 1sts in the next 5 years.

 

[Petes2424]

Without looking myself, if someone came with the 1st and 3rd max offer sheet, and they match, what move(s) would the Sens make in an almost impossible world of moving cap space?

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Without looking myself, if someone came with the 1st and 3rd max offer sheet, and they match, what move(s) would the Sens make in an almost impossible world of moving cap space?

The could waive Joseph and JBD and replace them with two mimimum salary players. Could do the same with Anton Forsberg.

Obviously it wouldn’t be ideal, but it would’t be impossible to get out of.