Speculation: Pierre McGuire thinks Shattenkirk is headed to the Bruins - but was wrong

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

Just saying were doomed. Boston Bruins cup 2051. I'm ready

I don't tend to agree with you on a lot of things here, but I unfortunately agree it's going to be a while until we win anything again.

I think we have a few shining stars, but for the most part a lot of mediocrity and questionable moves (or lack of them) every season. Which could be said about most teams, but I think it's going to take Sweeney's draft picks to succeed at a much higher percentage than usual (since most of his pro-acquisitions have been mostly underwhelming or straight up bad) in order for this team to be top tier again.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I don't tend to agree with you on a lot of things here, but I unfortunately agree it's going to be a while until we win anything again.

I think we have a few shining stars, but for the most part a lot of mediocrity and questionable moves (or lack of them) every season. Which could be said about most teams, but I think it's going to take Sweeney's draft picks to succeed at a much higher percentage than usual (since most of his pro-acquisitions have been mostly underwhelming or straight up bad) in order for this team to be top tier again.

When Bergeron and Krejci break down even more (which is happening) who is going to step up? Chara is old and Pasta and Marchand are going to need centres to get them points. I dont see anything in the system worth getting excited about. And the habs just got Drouin! FML

 

[Jean_Jacket41]

When Bergeron and Krejci break down even more (which is happening) who is going to step up? Chara is old and Pasta and Marchand are going to need centres to get them points. I dont see anything in the system worth getting excited about. And the habs just got Drouin! FML

Yeah. We are now doomed.

 

[Trap Jesus]

While I think Shattenkirk would be a fantastic addition, these are the types of contracts that can sink a team if it doesn't go as planned. He is going to get an absolutely massive deal. Still, this blueline would be absolutely filthy (perfect blend of puck-moving and stay-at-home D-men on every pairing, which is a huge key to success):

Chara-McAvoy
Miller-Shattenkirk
Krug-Carlo

 

[TheReal13Linseman]

But I feel like a couple years ago when Shattenkirk's name first popped up in rumors, almost everyone here was excited about the possibility. At some point a few folks mentioned that he wasn't exactly a star in his own zone, and when the trade for him (with Loui) fell through, all of a sudden it became "phew, he's a lousy defenseman anyway". Since then when his name comes up an increasing number of people want to bash the guy's defense and claim he's just going to be overpaid and lousy in his own end.

I'm not about to tell anyone that he's Ray Bourque back there, but he's not a turnstyle either. He's more than adequate defensively, and oh by the way, guess how many active defenseman have more points per game than Kevin Shattenkirk? Three. Three active players, and only 37 all time. Karlsson, Subban and Letang. He's got more PPG than Doughty, Burns, Keith, Hedman, Weber, Yandle, etc.

Again, not arguing for him as I still don't see why he'd be a "need" and what would have to happen to our roster to sign him, but he'd be an excellent addition for any team. If we think David Krejci is worth $7.25M and David Backes is worth $6M, I'd happily pay Kevin Shattenkirk $7M.

I think most Cap fans are unhappy with his play.

 

[SPLBRUIN]

McGuire must be the only one who thinks Shattenkirk is coming to Boston, every other rumor I have read doesn't even mention Boston as a possibility.

 

[DKH]

We're doomed. Any suggestion of getting a good player is met with swift resistance. Jacobs culture

I blame my parents for raising me to be negative

 

[TheBigBadB]

Can't see it. I think D is pretty much set. Not a great group but good enough. They need more work on 2nd and 3rd lines

 

[KrejciMVP]

I blame my parents for raising me to be negative

I'm a life long WEEI listener, hence here I am today

 

[EON]

This would make no sense for Boston.

Shattenkirk is very good but they would barely have the cap to fit him in, and already have 4 RDs. McAvoy and Carlo are the future down the right side.

Boston needs a stopgap LD until Lindgren/Zboril/Lauzon are ready, and perhaps a good bottom six forward.

 

[KrejciMVP]

This would make no sense for Boston.

Shattenkirk is very good but they would barely have the cap to fit him in, and already have 4 RDs. McAvoy and Carlo are the future down the right side.

Boston needs a stopgap LD until Lindgren/Zboril/Lauzon are ready, and perhaps a good bottom six forward.

ok but Carlo put up 16 points, we need offence. 16 points aint getting it done. I hope the best of for the kid but goals and assists matter when trying to win hockey games.

 

[compan]

This would make no sense for Boston.

Shattenkirk is very good but they would barely have the cap to fit him in, and already have 4 RDs. McAvoy and Carlo are the future down the right side.

Boston needs a stopgap LD until Lindgren/Zboril/Lauzon are ready, and perhaps a good bottom six forward.

I'd prefer a top six forward. Backes isn't really producing to that Top 6 level. Neither is Vatrano or Spooner. I'd say the only true Top 6 forwards we have right now are Marchand, Bergeron, Pasta and Krejci.

 

[NDiesel]

ok but Carlo put up 16 points, we need offence. 16 points aint getting it done. I hope the best of for the kid but goals and assists matter when trying to win hockey games.

I'm not sure why the offense we add needs to be on the backend. Wouldn't it make sense to, you know, use the cap to get a forward that can get us points?

And while goals and assists do matter in games the main point of a defenseman is to play defense, even in today's NHL.

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

ok but Carlo put up 16 points, we need offence. 16 points aint getting it done. I hope the best of for the kid but goals and assists matter when trying to win hockey games.

Carlo is a future shutdown defenseman. We'll get plenty of offense from are back end with ChuckyMac and Krug, we don't need a defensive liability in the back end just because he brings some offense to the table the negative far out ways the positives way to much to even think about adding Shatty.

Did you see how much of a determinant he was in the last two playoffs. Teams were licking their chops when he was on the ice.

Besides all this Carlo see's the ice extremely well and has a great outbreak pass to start the transition to offense and most importantly he can play defense!

 

[Seidenbergy]

ok but Carlo put up 16 points, we need offence. 16 points aint getting it done. I hope the best of for the kid but goals and assists matter when trying to win hockey games.

Clearly it's impossible for a 20 year old rookie defenseman to improve his offensive game. 16 pts is his ceiling.

 

[Dellstrom]

ok but Carlo put up 16 points, we need offence. 16 points aint getting it done. I hope the best of for the kid but goals and assists matter when trying to win hockey games.

Considering Carlo is primarily a shut down, stay at home defenseman, 16 points is actually pretty damn good. Oh, and it's his rookie season. If he can consistently put up 20-25 points in his prime while being a defensive wall and eating tons of minutes, there's really not much more you can ask out of him. We don't get close to winning the Cup in 11 without Seidenberg.

Goals matter, of course, but preventing goals matters too. Shut down #2/#3 guys are absolutely priceless. Good ones are very few and far between, losing Boychuk out of the blue left this team for the crows. We have one of the best offensive blueliners in Krug, and we're developing another with McAvoy. Those dynamic defensemen are great, but for every one of them you need a guy who can pick up their slack on our end of the ice.

 

[ashnathan]

McGuire must be the only one who thinks Shattenkirk is coming to Boston, every other rumor I have read doesn't even mention Boston as a possibility.

Same here. Its Rangers Devils thats all I keep hearing.

 

[KrejciMVP]

delete

 

[Gee Wally]

Two that seem close — if not done — are Trevor Daley (Detroit) and Dan Girardi (Tampa Bay).

The Rangers are determined to be modest, which takes them out of the Kevin Shattenkirk race unless something really changes. Buffalo is believed to be a serious suitor. There was some talk Dallas might try a short-term deal, but not sure where that stands after Marc Methot’s arrival.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-free-agency-buzz-rumblings-around-league/

 

[BruinDust]

I dont know how anybody can remember the last 3 bruins years and say "yep we're good" my goodness. Ill say it again, 1 cup in 40 years was no accident

Your right.

That 2011 team was damn good!

 

[BiggioRainesHOF]

Two that seem close � if not done � are Trevor Daley (Detroit) and Dan Girardi (Tampa Bay).

The Rangers are determined to be modest, which takes them out of the Kevin Shattenkirk race unless something really changes. Buffalo is believed to be a serious suitor. There was some talk Dallas might try a short-term deal, but not sure where that stands after Marc Methot�s arrival.


http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/nhl-free-agency-buzz-rumblings-around-league/

Those two signings would make the Bruins big UFA winners in the division by not being involved.

 

[dredeye]

There's no way we can make it work cap wise. Shattenkirk will not be a Bruin

 

[wintersej]

There's no way we can make it work cap wise. Shattenkirk will not be a Bruin

Sure there is: https://capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/384068

(not saying its the move I would make)

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

There's no way we can make it work cap wise. Shattenkirk will not be a Bruin

Besides the fact, there's a lot more significant holes to fill, than adding a 6-7millon dollar per, one dimensional defenseman.

 

[ORR2Sanderson2ORR]

Sure there is: https://capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/384068

(not saying its the move I would make)

Thats a generous cap-hit on Shatty. I still wouldn't want him even for that price, maybe 3-4mil per but that will never happen. He's very good offensively but you'll be throwing things at your TV or tossing your TV out the window , watching him trying to play defense.