A well known document from the bankruptcy procedures has been floating around here for years that basically shows the 2008 (and prior year) attendance numbers were incredibly sandbagged with free comp tickets and non-paying customers dressed as empty seats. The numbers you quoted were likely "tickets distributed", not "how many people actually showed up", or even "paid tickets". Big, big difference.
Phoenix LXXX: Is there another way out?
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A well known document from the bankruptcy procedures has been floating around here for years that basically shows the 2008 (and prior year) attendance numbers were incredibly sandbagged with free comp tickets and non-paying customers dressed as empty seats. The numbers you quoted were likely "tickets distributed", not "how many people actually showed up", or even "paid tickets". Big, big difference.
No, RSE would be the arena manager (the new ownership group). The lease agreement would be between the team owner and Glendale, once the NHL "sells" the team.
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Ya I meant RSE not the NHL you are correct. However the question still stands......
Aren't we also assuming that the COG will want to have RSE to be the arena manager? Ignoring the issue of timing for when they will make a decision (June 25th), isn't it extremely likely that they will have better offers in terms of potential revenue from other arena management firms?
That's what everyone is waiting on, who COG will choose as the arena manager. The sale cannot go through if they choose someone other than RSE, plus decide to throw in extra money for the guaranteed 45 booking dates that anchor tenant would bring.
Not.. going... to... happen... because there are a lot ot of teams (e.g. Detroit/Columbus/Dallas/etc) very unhappy with the current situation. The NHL BOG was discussing realignment before the Atlanta Thrashers were rumored to be heading up north. The latest rumors have Colorado moving to Pacific and Miami+Tampa moving to the Central division to even things out after a Coyotes-to-QC move. Don't laugh, Nashville/Dallas/StLouis are more reasonable as division opponents than Boston/Montreal/Ottawa/Toronto/Buffalo.
if they do they're idiots, No hope in Glendale bail now and take it 230 million from Quebec.
Would be interesting to see the REAL attendance figures, of fans who actually paid their way into games. Would give a real idea of actual attendance and just how weak that market is..
Why would the Jets get two years in the South East and Quebec not get stuck for 2 or 3 years.
Quebec in the Mid West until next realignment with Colorado in the pacific.
From the ratings thread:
Top markets for DRW v CHI game 7 (outside Detroit & Chicago, which were through the roof):
PIT 8.6, BUF 6.1, MIL 5.1, BOS 4.7, MSP 4.2. Vegas 3.9, Denver 3.6, Tampa 3.3, SD 3.1
Tampa is traditionally a Midwesterners destination (plus Toronto), while the east coast of Florida gets more Bos-NY-Quebec-Maritimes traffic.
madhi19
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By the way Gary plane just landed in Charlotte. Whatever he was renting it for that flight is up to debate.
OthmarAmmann
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I would guess it's somebody unrelated to the NHL. It's basically a private airline run by Bombardier.
Major4Boarding
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So on the prelim surface, (bold) says to me there's a 5 year out-clause (as in relocation out).
Like to add previous statements as well (LeBlanc)
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madhi19
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Only two reasons for this; a) Bettman has promised expansion revenue from a NEW team in QC to NHL owners b) Bettman will never admit he was wrong in moving the team to Phoenix in the first place.
madhi19
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C)The NHL know it was already DOA they just wanted to use it as leverage with PKP.
madhi19
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What else did we expect but the more I think about it the more I really want to know who behind that leak?Of course!
I think he might have gotten a few very, very angry calls from some owners! Or maybe it was never true, who knows!
What a mess!
halligan10
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Of course they are! But if they are planning to move the team this leak should have them expedite an announcement to save face
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