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Broberg wasn't a part of the inner circle of McDavid like Brown so he got left in the cold and became a mistreated asset...glad he is finding success now.
Another Stan Bowman masterclass move. Sign a bunch of forwards but let your promising young top 4D go for a bag of pucks when you need top 4D
We’re also coupling it with the postseason he just had. I think its fair to roll that play into the conversation.
Straw man argument. Literally no one is talking Norris. We’re talking about living up to the contract signed. Nothing more.
Broberg wasn't a part of the inner circle of McDavid like Brown so he got left in the cold and became a mistreated asset...glad he is finding success now.
Broberg wasn't a part of the inner circle of McDavid like Brown so he got left in the cold and became a mistreated asset...glad he is finding success now.
B) Let him walk, don't use Kane's LTIR, have $945K accrue to $4.5M at the deadline (plus Kane's LTIR if he's still projected to be out) and use that space on the best vet RD money can buy
Happy to see him succeed. He didn't really get much of a shot in Edmonton, and was never put in the best position. He wanted too much for what he had shown and St Louis stepped up with a big contract. Will be interesting to watch over the next few years.
They better add someone significant or they won’t be in the finals. What will be available and if they have assets to acquire such player is another story. Not a lot of quality at TDL.
The D core is worse without Ceci and Broberg and it wasn’t very good to begin with.
Losing Broberg for nothing was a complete failure.
Oilers should have bit the bullet and matched. They spent years developing him to be a potential replacement for Ekholm and Nurse. Now they’ll have to spend assets just to acquire another top 4 Dman that will probably be making more than 4.6 million. It would have been tough this season to fit the contract in but it’s not impossible, they just wouldn’t have had any cap space at the deadline to add a player but instead they’ll be hoping to add a player at the deadline that will be as good as Broberg…..
I know some people will post about advanced stats and how Broberg is getting very lucky but you have to be good to be lucky and there’s so much potential with the player. The Blues pretty much got their future top pairing Dman for the next 10 years for a 2nd because the Oilers are hoping that the right top 4, rental Dman becomes available at the deadline so they could waste more assets on a 1-2 year rental instead of looking long term with Broberg.
To be fair, he never got an opportunity to really play his natural position (LD). I do agree he didn't impress in camps though.He got chances.
2 camps in a row he showed up and played soft, scared hockey and was clearly not ready. He then had his agent make noise about wanting out, had a decent AHL season and then a whopping 10 game post season where he looked like he took the next step.
It was a gamble from the Blues and it has paid off so far.
I was happy the Oilers did not match, Oilers need some flexibility cap wise to assess where the true holes in the line up are as the season progresses.
I love that Broberg is talked about like he play 100 games as a key cog in the run last year.
Broberg wasn't a part of the inner circle of McDavid like Brown so he got left in the cold and became a mistreated asset...glad he is finding success now.
Philip Broberg
Defense
Born Jun 25 2001 -- Orebro, Sweden
Height 6.04 -- Weight 212 -- Shoots L
Selected by Edmonton Oilers round 1 #8 overall 2019 NHL Entry Draft
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Season Team Lge GP G A Pts PIM GP G A Pts PIM
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2017-18 AIK Jr. Swe-J 23 6 7 13 6
2017-18 Orebro HK Jr. Swe-J 15 0 2 2 0
2018-19 AIK Jr. Swe-J 8 2 6 8 8
2018-19 AIK Swe-1 41 2 7 9 14
2019-20 Skelleftea AIK SweHL 45 1 7 8 6
2020-21 Skelleftea AIK SweHL 44 3 10 13 10 12 0 0 0 2
2021-22 Edmonton Oilers NHL 23 1 2 3 8 1 0 0 0 0
2021-22 Bakersfield Condors AHL 31 4 19 23 18 4 0 1 1 0
2022-23 Edmonton Oilers NHL 46 1 7 8 2 9 0 0 0 4
2022-23 Bakersfield Condors AHL 7 2 2 4 0 -- -- -- -- --
2023-24 Edmonton Oilers NHL 12 0 2 2 0 10 2 1 3 0
2023-24 Bakersfield Condors AHL 49 5 33 38 16 2 0 1 1 0
2024-25 St. Louis Blues NHL 5 1 4 5 4
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NHL Totals 86 3 15 18 14 20 2 1 3 4
Current statistics as of 2024-10-18
He would have been on the right side this year unless an injury happened and next year they probably would have moved out Kulak to give him full time duty on the left side. In 2’years Ekholms contract expires and who knows if he’s back or how effective he’ll be so having Broberg would have made that a smoother transition.Broberg isn't and wasn't going to be a right-shot D though, no matter how well he develops. He's showing out well precisely because St. Louis has a spot for him on his natural side. We'll also see have to if it continues, players have hot streaks in new environments all the time and then never match it again. Broberg had a history of playing scared/meek here no matter how we used him.
Do I think management screwed up in not dealing with the situation earlier and trying to get more value for him? Absolutely, but Ken Holland wears most of that and he's gone now. As it is, Jackson/Bowman picked up two younger prospects over the summer who have a chance at bringing back a player with term similar to the Ekholm deal. That's really what we need, not another lefty who wasn't going to get ample minutes with the $9M man currently on the second pair.
As for Ekholm/"the Ekholm tree"... sure, we're likely not going to get that lucky again, but a #3/4 who can play responsible hockey for 3-4 years should absolutely be attainable for some combination of picks, Savoie, and O'Reilly. I'd be disappointed actually if the JJ/Bowman can't deliver that. It's the one major hole left on a roster that's more or less falling into place.
I mean the way you win in the NHL is with cheap depth the Oilers let too much of it go and its showing, Broberg will be better than Bouchard wait and seeHe got chances.
2 camps in a row he showed up and played soft, scared hockey and was clearly not ready. He then had his agent make noise about wanting out, had a decent AHL season and then a whopping 10 game post season where he looked like he took the next step.
It was a gamble from the Blues and it has paid off so far.
I was happy the Oilers did not match, Oilers need some flexibility cap wise to assess where the true holes in the line up are as the season progresses.
I love that Broberg is talked about like he play 100 games as a key cog in the run last year.
They let them go because it was no longer cheap, especially in Broberg’s case. There was also no room on Broberg’s strong side in the near future.I mean the way you win in the NHL is with cheap depth the Oilers let too much of it go and its showing, Broberg will be better than Bouchard wait and see
I love it when people don’t have anything else to say but “scoreboard”Still stinging from watching McDavid run over your team the other night in person?
The tide shifted from “man Broberg is ready to be a stud and I can’t wait” to “he’s trash and will never amount to anything in the span of 7 days.I think must oil fans are happy for bro and hollo.
This was a great job by the blues gm... It's working great. Happy for blues and bro.
But in August...I can't think of a single oil fan that wanted bro for 4.5m in our cap strapped roster.
Yes.. I blame oilers management
I'm sure Broberg is happy in STL. Like you said, if the Oilers were going to run Ekholm and Nurse on the left, then Broberg had to slide to the right side. And he's way more comfortable on the left, his natural side.They let them go because it was no longer cheap, especially in Broberg’s case. There was also no room on Broberg’s strong side in the near future.
Better than Bouchard is a take
I love it when people don’t have anything else to say but “scoreboard”
Can I troll asan oiler fan? As most on here are Ricky from tpb dumbIf you’re coming to this thread just to troll the oilers fans... keep moving.
Not a Blues fan, but Florida picked the pocket of Ceci and Bouchard all series long.....Bouchard was 62.7 xGF% in playoffs. That also matches my eye test; the puck is almost always moving the right way when he (and Ekholm) are on the ice. Bouchard is a much, much more polished and effective player than Broberg is at this stage of their careers, and I don't think that is remotely debatable. Seems I have stirred awake some Blues fans who are rightfully excited with their new player. I didn't like losing him and I think he has upside, just not ready to proclaim him worth his +4M cap hit yet or make a judgement as to what he will eventually end up peaking as. Fair enough?
The Oilers made the finals in spite of their blue line, not because of itThe blue line that was 1 game away from winning the cup just last year? (Minus Ceci and Broberg)
Are you arguing the Oilers can't improve on that with a trade (or two)?
I agree it made sense for both the player and the team. If they matched on Broberg they’d be stuck trying to jam a square peg in a round hole as they wouldn’t have the cap to make any other moves. Given what he had proven to date that’s a risky all in move for Edmonton.I'm sure Broberg is happy in STL. Like you said, if the Oilers were going to run Ekholm and Nurse on the left, then Broberg had to slide to the right side. And he's way more comfortable on the left, his natural side.
For him, Blues have Parayko and Faulk who are RHD (as is their 3rd D pairing with Kessell) so it's an ideal setup for him with Leddy as the other main LHD in the top 4 for the Blues (while Krug is out).