Rumor: Philadelphia wanted a 1st rounder, or specific prospect to take Joseph from Ottawa

[Junohockeyfan]

Oh I'm sure you would.

I think a Frost trade would be similar to the one suggested earlier - Frost @ 50% for Kubalik and a 2nd

Flyers get a 2nd for Frost plus Kubalik who they can give PP minutes and flip him to a contender at the deadline for another 2nd or 3rd.

Ottawa gets $1.45M in cap space and can sign Pinto with the right cap moves.

That is brutal for the FLyers. Frost for Pinto straight up.

 

[The Devilish Buffoon]

That is brutal for the FLyers. Frost for Pinto straight up.

If Frost is available, Ottawa would not be the team to pay top value for him.

 

[LeProspector]

If you want good players for cheap, call Pierre Dorian.

 

[rt]

Soderstrom and a 2nd for Joseph and Kleven?

 

[TkachukNorris79]

That is brutal for the FLyers. Frost for Pinto straight up.

How is this brutal for the Flyers? You're virtually getting two picks in the first 3 rounds for a player that your coach doesn't want to play.

Frost does not get you Pinto. I guarantee you Frost for Pinto straight up is further in value than Frost for a 2nd and a 3rd

 

[Flyer lurker]

Oh I'm sure you would.

I think a Frost trade would be similar to the one suggested earlier - Frost @ 50% for Kubalik and a 2nd

Flyers get a 2nd for Frost plus Kubalik who they can give PP minutes and flip him to a contender at the deadline for another 2nd or 3rd.

Ottawa gets $1.45M in cap space and can sign Pinto with the right cap moves.

Its hideous because rebuilding teams have absolutely zero business trading under 25 players for players who will be ufa's at the end of the year.

Oh goodie flyers go from 64 to 67 points in the standings.

But Kubalik will get a 2? Not the way he is playing.

But Flyers get 2 and 3 for Frost. Chuck Flusher is gone in case you haven't heard.

 

[captainpaxil]

How is this brutal for the Flyers? You're virtually getting two picks in the first 3 rounds for a player that your coach doesn't want to play.

Frost does not get you Pinto. I guarantee you Frost for Pinto straight up is further in value than Frost for a 2nd and a 3rd

Players you can't fit under the cap don't get you Morgan Frost .

 

[BondraTime]

Players you can't fit under the cap don't get you Morgan Frost .

The Sens wouldn't be able to fit Frost under the cap, does that mean Frost doesn't get Pinto if he were on the Flyers?

 

[Curufinwe]

That is brutal for the FLyers. Frost for Pinto straight up.

I doubt Ottawa will go for that while Torts is burying Frost as a healthy scratch.

That is brutal for the FLyers. Frost for Pinto straight up.

About as brutal as having the oldest dinosaur left in the league as coach during a "rebuild", yeah.

 

[TkachukNorris79]

Players you can't fit under the cap don't get you Morgan Frost .

Players that get healthy scratched by a rebuilding team don't get you Shane Pinto.

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Players that get healthy scratched by a rebuilding team don't get you Shane Pinto.

I mean Torts healthy scratch a lot of good players.

 

[TS Quint]

Players you can't fit under the cap don't get you Morgan Frost .

Just because Dorion is an idiot doesn't mean there won't be competition for Pinto when he gets traded.

 

[JRichard]

I mean Torts healthy scratch a lot of good players.

For a game or 2 but this is getting in the permanent doghouse zone, especially if the team overperforms vs expectations.

 

[Curufinwe]

A note of caution on the Flyers hot start - they also had great records in October 2022 and in October 2021. Then the wheels fell off.

 

[sxvnert]

Dumping Kubalik is the obvious move. Someone will pick him up as a waiver claim.

 

[kmwtrucks]

Dumping Kubalik is the obvious move. Someone will pick him up as a waiver claim.

that is what I would do. first run him thru waivers and see if anybody picks him up. and then trade him with a small sweetner. Maybe a 4-5th round gets someone to take him. the teams that would want him cant afford him is the issue. the teams with cap space probably don't want him at 2.5 salary. IE why you might need to attach a small sweetner.

 

[Curufinwe]

Dumping Kubalik is the obvious move. Someone will pick him up as a waiver claim.

Is he any kind of a tough guy? Then I guess some goon GM may claim him on waivers.

 

[sennysensen]

No more cap problems for the Sens, might as well close this thread.

Joseph has played great so far this year, glad to have him. Can't say the same about Kubalik, but meh, he fits under the cap.

 

[Divine]

Is he any kind of a tough guy? Then I guess some goon GM may claim him on waivers.

He put up 45 points last year and makes 2.5M on an expiring contract. Ottawa fans are ready to dump him because he has 0 points in 6 games but I don't think Dorion is going to dump the only (and possibly best) NHL player he got in the DeBrincat trade for free.

 

[KevinRedkey]

With Pinto unlikely to be signed this year, the Sens have no reason to dump anyone anymore.

This whole ordeal may have been known by Dorion, which would explain his lack of doing anything at all about it. We'll never know for sure though.

 

[FlyguyOX]

I mean Torts healthy scratch a lot of good players.

XG% is 2nd in the league I believe.
Whatever he’s doing is working

A note of caution on the Flyers hot start - they also had great records in October 2022 and in October 2021. Then the wheels fell off.

Underlying metrics better this time fyi

 

[sennysensen]

Pinto will be signed in January for $875,000 (his QO, he has no leverage, only option is to sign this). The Sens will make cap room by sending 13th forward (Kelly or MacEwan) to the AHL. So they can play out the year with a 21 man roster!

 

[ottawagm]

Imagine having given up a first to get rid of a point per game 3M Joseph only to have Pinto suspended for 41 games. Definitely glad other teams were asking too much.

Not to mention we then lost a first for the Dadonov thing too.

 

[swiftwin]

Still will cost Ottawa a 1st to offload him to us.

Still?

 

[eramosat]

I mean Torts healthy scratch a lot of good players.

Flyers social media should definitely be leaning into this