Other Sports: Philadelphia Phillies: The Road To .500 Continues Into Red October (2024 Edition)

trostol

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ya know..i am really starting to not feel good about any of the gm's in this town or teams i like(save the Bucs cause I think Licht is solid with some stuff he does)
 
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CutOnDime97

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Trout is still out there.
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Adam Warlock

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Painter is right on the cusp of playing in the MLB & has picked up about where he left off after his injury. There isn’t a team in this league trading that type of pitching prospect.

I just worry that when Painter is in his prime and dominating, the team around him will be garbage and theyll end up trading him anyway. And thats if he doesnt keep getting hurt and hits his potential.

I appreciate not wanting to mortgage the future but this team was built pretty much exclusively to have a window of 3-5 years which is already on the back end. I feel like you kinda have to double down on this current team and adding Tucker would make a huge impqct.
 
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Flybynite

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I just worry that when Painter is in his prime and dominating, the team around him will be garbage and theyll end up trading him anyway. And thats if he doesnt keep getting hurt and hits his potential.

I appreciate not wanting to mortgage the future but this team was built pretty much exclusively to have a window of 3-5 years which is already on the back end. I feel like you kinda have to double down on this current team and adding Tucker would make a huge impqct.
Painter is 100% on an innings limit this year.. Which is worsened by the fact he hurt his UCL in spring training of 2022 and then the Phillies didn't have him get surgery until August of that year pushing his recovery back about 4 months.

I doubt he throws much more than 70 innings this season and probably little chance of him being a starter for a long playoff run (if a long playoff run even occurs)

So you're basically say Painter is going to have restrictions until Wheeler is 36 (possibly even 37 if they still have some restrictions on him for 2026).

We've seen so many star pitchers in their mid 30s not just 'taper off', but literally go off a cliff. Go from being a Cy Young contender to being a back end of the rotation guy within a few month period.

If you look at the position players do you see more guys who you believe will get significantly better for the 2026 season or see more guys you think will start (or continue) to decline more for 2026?

Punting next year or going 'run-back' (which is almost the same thing) when so many other teams have gotten significantly better is just giving up on championship aspirations and no matter what Middleton says to fans it's just trying to gaslight them.
 
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