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DrinkFightFlyers

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I just don’t get how anyone in the organization or fans would be content with running it back.

They won’t be a playoff team if they run it back. They didn’t beat the Mets and the Mets got better and the Phillies have gotten worse / stayed the same.

Something has to give. Move Bohm or Marsh. Move a SP if that’s what they receive in return. Show some life and interest in some of the players. Ffs.
I don't disagree with any of this, but the problem moving Bohm and Marsh isn't enough and in all likelihood the player you get in return is either going to be futures or a lateral move or maybe a slight upgrade elsewhere that results in a downgrade at 3rd or CF/4th OF.

If you want to make a big splash you're going to need to 1) overpay in free agency like the Mets just did for Soto or 2) overpay for someone in a trade. The team isn't going to get better by getting a mid-level prospect or MLBer for Bohm or Marsh. They are going to have to trade Miller or Painter or Crawford if they want to acquire an impact player via trade like the Red Sox did trading a top 25 and top 55 MLB prospect. I would have been fine doing that but I know many (apparently including the Phillies) were not willing to pay that price. Or you are throwing money at a guy like Soto (or whomever your FA target is) that will likely be an overpayment like Castellanos etc. who are good players but maybe not worth all that money. Again, I would have been fine doing that for Soto but many would not.
 

deadhead

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DD is discussing trades with anyone.
But I don't think he's in a hurry.

The problem is they're a year or two from having a deep enough farm system to trade for surplus, and a year or two from clearing out $40-60M in salary. Right now the tax is close to 100%, so a $20M FA actually costs $40M.

So I have no problem running it back this season rather than mortgage the future.
They're good enough to have a chance, and would be in better shape in 2026-28.
You win a championship by having a good enough team to compete every season and hope to get lucky, most of the time, teams that push all their chips into the middle of the table regret it.
 

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