Other Sports: Philadelphia Phillies: The Road To .500 Continues Into Red October (2024 Edition)

[DrinkFightFlyers]

I just don’t get how anyone in the organization or fans would be content with running it back.

They won’t be a playoff team if they run it back. They didn’t beat the Mets and the Mets got better and the Phillies have gotten worse / stayed the same.

Something has to give. Move Bohm or Marsh. Move a SP if that’s what they receive in return. Show some life and interest in some of the players. Ffs.

I don't disagree with any of this, but the problem moving Bohm and Marsh isn't enough and in all likelihood the player you get in return is either going to be futures or a lateral move or maybe a slight upgrade elsewhere that results in a downgrade at 3rd or CF/4th OF.

If you want to make a big splash you're going to need to 1) overpay in free agency like the Mets just did for Soto or 2) overpay for someone in a trade. The team isn't going to get better by getting a mid-level prospect or MLBer for Bohm or Marsh. They are going to have to trade Miller or Painter or Crawford if they want to acquire an impact player via trade like the Red Sox did trading a top 25 and top 55 MLB prospect. I would have been fine doing that but I know many (apparently including the Phillies) were not willing to pay that price. Or you are throwing money at a guy like Soto (or whomever your FA target is) that will likely be an overpayment like Castellanos etc. who are good players but maybe not worth all that money. Again, I would have been fine doing that for Soto but many would not.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Honestly, good. Kid is pretty good and when he's on, he's on. I'm not sure how much of a fielder he is. I assume with him though, Casty is gone right?

 

[DancingPanther]

Thanks for the video link, PhilliesTailgate . Who's side are you f***ing on?

 

[deadhead]

DD is discussing trades with anyone.
But I don't think he's in a hurry.

The problem is they're a year or two from having a deep enough farm system to trade for surplus, and a year or two from clearing out $40-60M in salary. Right now the tax is close to 100%, so a $20M FA actually costs $40M.

So I have no problem running it back this season rather than mortgage the future.
They're good enough to have a chance, and would be in better shape in 2026-28.
You win a championship by having a good enough team to compete every season and hope to get lucky, most of the time, teams that push all their chips into the middle of the table regret it.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Seiya Suzuki would be a nice add but he has a no trade clause for what it’s worth so like most Japanese players he probably wouldn’t want to come here.

Tucker would be a great add obviously. Aside from being another lefty (still hits LHPs well) he doesn’t strike out much. Walks a ton. More Walks than strikeouts which is pretty much the best indicator of an elite hitter. Something they desperately need. And still in the prime of his career.

He’s a rental though and I’m not sure how much they’ll want to give up without an extension.

 

[SnS]

Seiya Suzuki would be a nice add but he has a no trade clause for what it’s worth so like most Japanese players he probably wouldn’t want to come here.

Tucker would be a great add obviously. Aside from being another lefty (still hits LHPs well) he doesn’t strike out much. Walks a ton. More Walks than strikeouts which is pretty much the best indicator of an elite hitter. Something they desperately need. And still in the prime of his career.

He’s a rental though and I’m not sure how much they’ll want to give up without an extension.

In my opinion, if they trade for him they need to extend him.

 

[Flybynite]

Juan Soto doing the Luka off-season fitness I see

 

[FLYguy3911]

In my opinion, if they trade for him they need to extend him.

Baseball players, typically ones of Tucker’s caliber, don’t sign extensions a year before free agency. Especially after seeing some of the contracts this offseason.

 

[Adam Warlock]

Painter better be the real deal... bc keeping him is keeping them from some big trades.

I still think back to the gillick/amaro years. All those prospects...the ones they traded and the ones they didnt...basically none of them turned into anything.

Even the Hamels trade...literally none of those guys they got became anything good.

People get so protective of these prospects but it really is a crap shoot.

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Alrighty then, don't want that weirdo anywhere near the team but interesting nonetheless.

 

[Cody Webster]

Alrighty then, don't want that weirdo anywhere near the team but interesting nonetheless.

Where would he even play?

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Where would he even play?

 

[Cody Webster]

If it kicks Nick to the curb, I'm all for it

 

[DrinkFightFlyers]

Are we moving Bryce back to the OF? Honestly not the worst idea. Let's go hog wild here. Let's make this lineup possible by any means necessary.

1. Kyle Schwarber (DH)
2. Treat Turner (SS)
3. Bryce Harper (RF)
4. Pete Alonso (1B)
5. Kyle Tucker (LF)
6. Alex Bregman (3B)
7. Luis Robert (CF)
8. JT Realmuto (C)
9. Bryson Stott (2B)

Wheeler
Nola
Ranger
Sanchez
Roki Sasaki

Then bring in Tanner Scott and AJ Minter or something like that for the pen. Come on it isn't that hard!

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

Not a serious franchise.

 

[Rebels57]

Not a serious franchise.

Christ, this offer is a slap in the face.

Honestly, people need to start turning on Dombrowski. The guy sucks.

The best 2 players he added in the 2 past years are Hoffman and Strahm. Hoffman might not have ever been called up had Bryce not used him for BP rehab. Now that Hoffman has become elite (despite the playoff meltdown), he's going to let him walk for some reason. The guy sucks.

 

[Cody Webster]

Not a serious franchise.

That's embarrassing

 

[CutOnDime97]

Run it back with the aging team that was under .500 after the ASG

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

 

[Rebels57]

Never would have played the Mets if not for Williams blowing a save against them in the WC by throwing Alonso a 9th inning meatball.

 

[trostol]

Christ, this offer is a slap in the face.

Honestly, people need to start turning on Dombrowski. The guy sucks.

The best 2 players he added in the 2 past years are Hoffman and Strahm. Hoffman might not have ever been called up had Bryce not used him for BP rehab. Now that Hoffman has become elite (despite the playoff meltdown), he's going to let him walk for some reason. The guy sucks.

i think people are already starting to turn on him