Value of: Philadelphia - Montreal

[Rorschach]

This is purely a hockey trade, nothing to do with any player's ethnic background.

Looking at the two teams, Montreal is attempting to win now with Price especially after dealing Subban for Weber. Philly is Giroux plus the kids where his age and more importantly his prime will probably end a couple years before the whole team peaks together.

So...

To Montreal: Claude Giroux $8.275m for 5 years

To Philadelphia: Alex Galchenyuk $2.8m 1y RFA, David Desharnais $3.5m 1y UFA (expiring dump to even out salaries, negative value)

I'm assuming Galchenyuk > Giroux in market value and that Giroux waives his NMC for this one situation.

The difference in salary is almost $2m/y with Montreal having like $1.2m in cap currently. When 40% of the season is over, Montreal will have enough room to take on the extra cap.



I believe after this deal, Montreal can run for the Cup immediately and at least two more times after this. Giroux had an epic matchup against Sidney Crosby a few years ago and if Montreal wants to make the Final, I believe it must go through Pittsburgh. With a true 1C, 1D, 1G, plus a gamebreaking W (Radulov), they can match up against Tampa Bay too.

For Philly, they now have a potential 1C that will peak around the same time with the younger team. In a couple of years they can run for several years in a row like Hextall's previous team, the Kings.

Is this deal fairly even or does one side or the other need to hand over some futures to make the value work?

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[rhinoshawarma]

Hide, quick

 

[flyersfan018]

Sigh

 

[beetee15]

dis is not good

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

You sir have a deal!

 

[Mayo Masseuse]

Is this for real?

 

[Juicy Pop]

I'll trade you his twin brother Laude [+MacDonald] for Galchenyuk and Desharnais. How does that sound? He's not quite as skilled as he's a pure PP specialist and he's not exactly captain material, but he should do well enough.

If that doesn't suit your fancy, maybe you would be interested in his cousin? http://prowrestling.wikia.com/wiki/Claude_Giroux

 

[edguy]

For the record so OP isnt confused Giroux >>>>> Galchenyuk.

 

[jacks*]

For the record so OP isnt confused Giroux >>>>> Galchenyuk.

For the record so the poster above isn't confused
Giroux [use to be ]>>>>> Galchenyuk.
Not so much the case anymore.

 

[dats81]

Claude Giroux stands for the Philadelphia Flyers and everything the Flyers are all about. He is the Philadelphia Flyers.

And no, he is not traded.

 

[Vikke]

For the record so the poster above isn't confused
Giroux [use to be ]>>>>> Galchenyuk.
Not so much the case anymore.

Yeah, he really is.

 

[CanuckistanFlyerfan]

This is purely a hockey trade, nothing to do with any player's ethnic background.

Looking at the two teams, Montreal is attempting to win now with Price especially after dealing Subban for Weber. Philly is Giroux plus the kids where his age and more importantly his prime will probably end a couple years before the whole team peaks together.

So...

To Montreal: Claude Giroux $8.275m for 5 years

To Philadelphia: Alex Galchenyuk $2.8m 1y RFA, David Desharnais $3.5m 1y UFA (expiring dump to even out salaries, negative value)

I'm assuming Galchenyuk > Giroux in market value and that Giroux waives his NMC for this one situation.

The difference in salary is almost $2m/y with Montreal having like $1.2m in cap currently. When 40% of the season is over, Montreal will have enough room to take on the extra cap.



I believe after this deal, Montreal can run for the Cup immediately and at least two more times after this. Giroux had an epic matchup against Sidney Crosby a few years ago and if Montreal wants to make the Final, I believe it must go through Pittsburgh. With a true 1C, 1D, 1G, plus a gamebreaking W (Radulov), they can match up against Tampa Bay too.

For Philly, they now have a potential 1C that will peak around the same time with the younger team. In a couple of years they can run for several years in a row like Hextall's previous team, the Kings.

Is this deal fairly even or does one side or the other need to hand over some futures to make the value work?

Counter offer....Steve Mason and Michael Neuvirth for Carey Price.

 

[chupanibre]

 

[Larry44]

Well at least it wasn't Simmonds for Desharnais this time!

 

[Chuck Downie]

oh boy

 

[He Is Knocking]

Like most proposals this is a doozy......

 

[TheWolfOfBroadStreet]

For the record so the poster above isn't confused
Giroux [use to be ]>>>>> Galchenyuk.
Not so much the case anymore.

care to explain to us how thats "not so much the case anymore"

i'll wait.

 

[Brock Radunske]

For the record so OP isnt confused Giroux >>>>> Galchenyuk.

Uh, guy? I don't know if you've seen or not but according to the plethora of Habs proposals lately, Galchenyuk is an elite #1C and would even be a lateral move for a guy like Tavares.
Have some Respeck.

 

[CanadienShark]

Galchenyuk has quite a ways to go before he's in Giroux territory. Bad for the Flyers.

 

[1865]

"Galchenyuk > Giroux"



I love that not only are we giving up Giroux for Galchenyuk, we're also getting Desharnais back! What an incredible deal.

 

[hockeyheadlines]

No reason for Montreal to even consider this.

 

[Vipers31]

I'm assuming Galchenyuk > Giroux in market value and that Giroux waives his NMC for this one situation.

I don't think that assumption is realistic. It's not the easiest suggestion to disprove, given that we haven't seen many trades to match this design, so the value of the gained cap space is up for (some) debate. I don't think its value is particularly close to making Galchenyuk's value higher than Giroux's.

For the record so the poster above isn't confused
Giroux [use to be ]>>>>> Galchenyuk.
Not so much the case anymore.

It's true, you can strike two or three ">"s by now. There's still two or three left in Giroux's favour, though.

 

[Captain Dave Poulin]

Uh, guy? I don't know if you've seen or not but according to the plethora of Habs proposals lately, Galchenyuk is an elite #1C and would even be a lateral move for a guy like Tavares.
Have some Respeck.

I'm picturing Terrance and Phillip's voice saying that. Awesome

 

[Starat327]

For the record so the poster above isn't confused
Giroux [use to be ]>>>>> Galchenyuk.
Not so much the case anymore.

Well, I suppose you are right. It may be closer to just Giroux >>> Gally now instead of >>>>>.

 

[He Is Knocking]

I dig how some of the same say you need to pay a premium on patches because he's a captain but a guy with elite leadership skills stats only count....Go figure?