Johnny Rifle
Pittsburgh Penguins
Look up Eric Lindros trade tree and you’ll see a lot of names that are engraved on the Stanley Cup.
Hint: Eric Lindros isn’t one of them.
Philadelphia Flyers only have one major individual award winner in the 21st century
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Look up Eric Lindros trade tree and you’ll see a lot of names that are engraved on the Stanley Cup.
Hint: Eric Lindros isn’t one of them.
Gregor Samsa
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I know all about it but I believe the cup is a team accomplishment and the Avs were a well run team. With Sakic and Roy they had a great base and probably would have made a go of it in some way. I’m not saying the Avs didn’t benefit from it; perhaps my gripe is more looking in hindsight when the hockey gods or fortune greatly smile or frown. If a team traded a legit 1st line player for 2 2nd round picks fans of the 1st team would be pissed. If those 2nds turned into Duncan Keith and Kucherov the trade is viewed differently. I think Forsberg hit as high a percentile as possible and that often won’t be the case and those types of things can’t be counted on or projected
Tripod
I hate this team
What does that have to do with you saying:
"The Flyers haven't had a player in the same tier as Matthews , Nylander or even Marner in decades"
Nylander and Marner have yet to eclipse what Voracek did....let alone sniffing Giroux. Obviously Matthews is different since he is the one with the Hart and Rocket. But again, Nylander and Marner are not close to doing what Giroux did....and that was the entire point.
What rich history do they have in the 21st century?
Their fanbase constantly mocked rivals for "tanking" while they were competitively "retooling" every few years behind their insane owner's tirades.
They sure have some great tools now. Disgraziato:
Their fanbase constantly mocked rivals for "tanking" while they were competitively "retooling" every few years behind their insane owner's tirades.
They sure have some great tools now. Disgraziato:
Johnny Rifle
Pittsburgh Penguins
The Leafs haven’t had success since the moon landing let alone the 21st century.
Stephen
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Hard to believe the Philadelphia Flyers have only one of those homemade trophy points.
Actually Philadelphia was quite the IT destination up until after their 2010 Stanley Cup run which precipitated their little retool dumping Carter and Richards and Bobrovsky a little bit later. Really seemed to lose their Big League, villain team feel after the mid 2010s.
Actually Philadelphia was quite the IT destination up until after their 2010 Stanley Cup run which precipitated their little retool dumping Carter and Richards and Bobrovsky a little bit later. Really seemed to lose their Big League, villain team feel after the mid 2010s.
freakydallas13
Registered User
The Flyers old boys club has a stranglehold on this franchise. Management is too proud/stupid to ever do a full tear down rebuild, so what we get is just a shitty retool every 4 or 5 years that accomplishes nothing but being a playoff tweener.
For management, no trophies is a feature, not a bug.
For management, no trophies is a feature, not a bug.
The Leafs old and current greats are people they parade during war ceremonies. In a couple of years, sadly they will pass.
The entire Flyers franchise is built on rotten garbage, and Tortorella now churning that vile pot.
"We didn't tell him to go get cancer. It's too bad that he did. We feel sorry for him, but then he went goofy on us."
Voight
#winning
Got "screwed" in the sense of he peaked when RBA and Datsyuk had a stranglehold on the award.
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Cechmanek should have won the Vezina over Hasek in 2001. He finished 4th in MVP voting and Hasek finished 8th, yet Cechmanek was runner-up for Vezina.
Ghost should have wont he Calder over Panarin - especially when factoring in the age difference.
Giroux should have won the Hart over Taylor Hall in 2018 as well.
Other then that, yeah it's been ugly.
Claude Giroux was a legitimate star for a decade (2010-2020). 4th in scoring behind just Kane, Crosby, and Ovechkin while playing with nowhere near the calibre of teammates. He had 3 top 4 Hart finishes in that span.
www.quanthockey.com
Ghost should have wont he Calder over Panarin - especially when factoring in the age difference.
Giroux should have won the Hart over Taylor Hall in 2018 as well.
Other then that, yeah it's been ugly.
Claude Giroux was a legitimate star for a decade (2010-2020). 4th in scoring behind just Kane, Crosby, and Ovechkin while playing with nowhere near the calibre of teammates. He had 3 top 4 Hart finishes in that span.
2010s NHL Scoring Leaders
NHL scoring leaders during the 2010s. NHL stats leaders in the decade spanning from 2010 to 2019.
www.quanthockey.com
McGarnagle
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And the only reason Couturier even won that year was Bergeron voter fatigue
Darcy Tucker
My Name is Bob
We have differing opinions on what a legitimate star is then if mid tier players that wanted out and that Marner has already out salaried are your go tos. Ouch.
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You keep ignoring me saying Chris Pronger lmfao
He would be the greatest Leafs defenseman ever
POVERTY
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They may not have any individual awards but that 2010 playoff run (especially the comeback against Boston) is more impressive than anything my team has done over the same period
RickyLafleur
Fall of Pierre
Jared Dunn
Registered User
ah ok
habs were very high but it was all due to
Price and Theodore with 8 point seasons with Hart and Vezina
And then PK with the Norris
Its crazy that they have Norris/Vezina over Art Ross
I would think
Hart - 5
Art Ross - 4
Norris/Rocket/Vezina - 3
Selke 2
Calder 1
There, fixed that for you Velvet Jones. If you don't get the reference, Google it. You'll be glad you did.
Dod93Cityt
Do You Believe In Ghosts?
So you just ignore Giroux has finished top 3 in scoring 3 times the last 13 years? Or that G has 2 top 4 finishes in Hart voting?
What years did Marner and Nylander do that?
Hell, Voracek has as many top 4 finishes in scoring races the last decade as Matthews, Marner, and Nylander combined.
Arthur Morgan
Registered User
do people really even care about individual awards? I know a CBJ fan made this thread but I kinda figured the only fans who overly cared about this stuff are Edmonton fans so they can pump McDavid up into the top 3 of all time lol
M88K
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Us Flyers fans have gone through enough pain. Imagine having to be a fan of a franchise you don't actually like? No need for this thread lol.
