Other Sports: Philadelphia Eagles (NFL): THIS IS BRAZIL (Start Of 2024 Regular Season)

[bennysflyers16]

Let’s get a TD here and then hammer stafford

 

[JojoTheWhale]

@JojoTheWhale - I assume you would be the best person to answer this - at what point after a failed passing play does it make sense to decline a holding penalty. Obviously a 3rd to 4th down. But is it less likely to convert a 1st and 20, than a 2nd and 10? Obviously the decision would be affected by field position as well.

Anyone else can answer, just curious the likelihood of first down conversions

Yeah, it’s a sliding scale for all of the reasons you mentioned. For a point of reference, I do happen to know that the break even point for the NFL as a whole on a 1st Down Holding calls is 2nd & 12. So the average team will convert 1st & 20 and 2nd & 12 the same percentage of the time.

 

[Chinatown88]

Yeah, it’s a sliding scale for all of the reasons you mentioned. For a point of reference, I do happen to know that the break even point for the NFL as a whole on a 1st Down Holding calls is 2nd & 12. So the average team will convert 1st & 20 and 2nd & 12 the same percentage of the time.

We in on Trey Amos?

 

[bennysflyers16]

Keep running on 2nd down

 

[achdumeingute]

Fing passing....

Keep running on 2nd down

Every down. (I'm soft ok on like 3 and under 4s taking shots)

 

[VladDrag]

Yeah, it’s a sliding scale for all of the reasons you mentioned. For a point of reference, I do happen to know that the break even point for the NFL as a whole on a 1st Down Holding call is 2nd & 12. So the average team will convert 1st & 20 and 2 & 12 at the same rate.

I was thinking that on average a 1st and 20 had to get converted less than a 2nd and 10. I would interested in 2nd and 20 vs 3rd and 10.


Also, Cannot take that sack

 

[bennysflyers16]

Run and take the FG you f***ing clowns

Run on 2nd
Run on 3rd
Kill time
Kick FG

It’s simple

 

[DancingPanther]

Bro, that throw that he missed to AJ is so, so f***ing bad. Better hope the weather gets worse, because they're losing this if it isn't a run-a-thon

 

[achdumeingute]

Run and take the FG you f***ing clowns

Run on 2nd
Run on 3rd
Kill time
Kick FG

It’s simple

So simple....

 

[DancingPanther]

Run and take the FG you f***ing clowns

Run on 2nd
Run on 3rd
Kill time
Kick FG

It’s simple

They're out of fg range in this weather at that spot on the field

 

[JojoTheWhale]

We in on Trey Amos?

Haven’t watched him at all yet, but I have the impression from the Ole Miss games I watched that he would be a scheme fit. He can tackle.

 

[FatTugboatFlahr]

Hard to tell on TV. Was AJ 1v1 up top on that sack?

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

Hurts is definitely a concern at this point.

 

[JojoTheWhale]

I was thinking that on average a 1st and 20 had to get converted less than a 2nd and 10. I would interested in 2nd and 20 vs 3rd and 10

What happens is that you run into some of the same issues as you do when deciding to kick a FG late up 3. You force the opposition to play more optimally by game situation and it loses you more equity than you might guess. 2nd & 10 makes opposing OCs/QBs more aggressive.

I’ll see if I can pull that number.

 

[bennysflyers16]

They're out of fg range in this weather at that spot on the field

Sure if our Stud RB gets no yards on 3 runs which is impossible

 

[Flybynite]

With Elliot I dont think there is any guarantee they gave up 3 points, but Jesus. Jayden Daniels has better pocket awareness in his 19th career NFL game than Hurts has in like 85 or 90

 

[DancingPanther]

Hurts is definitely a concern at this point.

AT THIS POINT?!

 

[achdumeingute]

We in on Trey Amos?

I mean BPA and all, but DT and DE is so deep late first early second. Hard for me to look CB. He's a top 60 pick.

 

[LegionOfDoom91]

They’re picking on Rodgers.

 

[FLYguy3911]

Two huge stops on third and short.

 

[Chicken N Raffls]

Another great stop by the defense. Offense needs to chip in

 

[Chinatown88]

There really are no NFL players named Bryce.

 

[bennysflyers16]

AT THIS POINT?!

I’m trying my best to be positive

 

[HeadLiceHatty]

That snow starting to come down pretty hard and lay, have to think it favors the Eagles. They need to take advantage of it before the end of the first half, a TD here would be massive.

 

[bennysflyers16]

They’re picking on Rodgers.

Stick 10 needles into Mitchell’s shoulder