Prospect Info: Phantoms (AHL), Reading Royals (ECHL), NCAA, Jrs., Int'l, etc.

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Deadpool8812

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Because as we know, if you're stronger than your opponent, you are immediately better at hockey.

Regardless of if a Junior players could win vs almost the bottom of the barrel "pro" players, I'd still be incredibly surprised if Hart wasted any time in the ECHL
You're also forgetting that most ECHLers played junior and by all indications would be better players in their 20s than when they were teenagers. Hell, the Canadian World Junior team plays tune up games against a Canadian University all star team (mostly made up of former junior players now in their 20s) and lose.

But yes, I agree that I can't see Hart in the ECHL. But then again, Jonathan Quick spent time in the ECHL
 

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You're also forgetting that most ECHLers played junior and by all indications would be better players in their 20s than when they were teenagers. Hell, the Canadian World Junior team plays tune up games against a Canadian University all star team (mostly made up of former junior players now in their 20s) and lose.

But yes, I agree that I can't see Hart in the ECHL. But then again, Jonathan Quick spent time in the ECHL

I guess it could happen, I'd just find it hard, I think Hart is the main focus of next year's team.
 

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I don’t know about destroy. The ECHL isn’t really a strong league despite being professional. The really only NHL caliber talent playing there is more times than not in the net.

The playing field in juniors isn’t leveled at all really in terms of acquiring talent so there’s some really bad teams. The powerhouses could probably hang with them though at least.
 

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But that's why I used the Parson example.

2nd rd pick.
WJC gold
Memorial Cup win
OHL Best SV%

Most did not think he would struggle in the ECHL and AHL this year.
 

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But that's why I used the Parson example.

2nd rd pick.
WJC gold
Memorial Cup win
OHL Best SV%

Most did not think he would struggle in the ECHL and AHL this year.

It happens but we also have to realize we’re mostly making these determinations based off stats at lower levels. For goalies in the AHL, ECHL, & CHL those stats can really vary compared to the NHL as the teams aren’t nearly as balanced & neither is the structure in front of them. In some cases the people counting the saves aren’t as good either.
 
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Yeah we would lose it.

Im still on the fence. Gonna hold off on my opinion of Mrazek until the season is over.

I can see being on the fence about him. If I had the choice between two goalies with the same save %, one who was steady but didn't make circus saves and one like Petr who does make great saves but allows fat rebounds or let's in leaky ones I want the steady guy every time. Mentally it is so much easier to play in front of somebody steady if unspectacular.

That being said Mrazek oozes raw talent, but he is like a guy that can throw 98mph but doesn't know how to pitch. He just does things that boggles my mind and makes me nervous.
 

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If we had traded Marody for Mrazek, most here would have been ok with that given our dire situation in goal at the time. Of course Mrazek has not panned out like we hoped, but that's all in hindsight.
 

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I can see being on the fence about him. If I had the choice between two goalies with the same save %, one who was steady but didn't make circus saves and one like Petr who does make great saves but allows fat rebounds or let's in leaky ones I want the steady guy every time. Mentally it is so much easier to play in front of somebody steady if unspectacular.

That being said Mrazek oozes raw talent, but he is like a guy that can throw 98mph but doesn't know how to pitch. He just does things that boggles my mind and makes me nervous.

I can see that. At the same time, I watched us give up on another athletically gifted but unrefined, albeit younger, goalie in Bobrovsky only to regret it later.

What if Dillabaugh can coach out his bad habits, even it were to take half of a full season? That could end up being worth it. We dont exactly have a clear picture in mind when it comes to our goaltending. We dont know if and when one of the prospects will be ready. Elliott/Neuvirth are only under contract for 1 more season and both have flaws and are older. Neither are Stanley Cup calibre goalies. Could Mrazek potentially be if coached up? Im not sure.
 

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I can see that. At the same time, I watched us give up on another athletically gifted but unrefined, albeit younger, goalie in Bobrovsky only to regret it later.

What if Dillabaugh can coach out his bad habits, even it were to take half of a full season? That could end up being worth it. We dont exactly have a clear picture in mind when it comes to our goaltending. We dont know if and when one of the prospects will be ready. Elliott/Neuvirth are only under contract for 1 more season and both have flaws and are older. Neither are Stanley Cup calibre goalies. Could Mrazek potentially be if coached up? Im not sure.

Yeah I see your point. But from all the talk that came out of Detroit it sounds like isn't very interested in changing his ways. If he was younger I could get on board but I just don't think he is going to pan out to much.
 
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Yeah I see your point. But from all the talk that came out of Detroit it sounds like isn't very interested in changing his ways. If he was younger I could get on board but I just don't think he is going to pan out to much.

You are probably right but 26 is still fairly young for an NHL goalie. All depends on attitude and coachability though. Hes clearly physically gifted enough.
 

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This might actually work, in terms of "buying a Bunny Kitchener sweater without Rangers bull**** on it"

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I'm not sure what season that is from, if it is during his time or not, but I'd be willing to trade off the authenticity of having one he actually wore for avoiding the Rangers bull****.
 
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