PGDT: Russia - Canada

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Russian Fan said:
Well that doesn't mean anything. If stats is your only argument than Lisin must be very good because he played 1st line with full of NHLers in Kazan.


What I meant is that Radulov is playing in a Canadian league, with Canadian (read here NHL) rules, on a Canadian ice surface (rink size). And in a league that isn't at par with the other 2 CHLs this season. And, no, I'm not talking (or rather writing!) about stats. I'm talking about his overall performance. Radulov cheats a lot on the ice. He's not the most reliable fella in his zone. And in North America, to play the game adequately, you need to be reliable in both ends.

Radulov has been a peripheral player this season. That doesn't cut it in North America.

Like you said, it's 2 different hockey styles. In North America, you need to play a more efficient game.
 
After reading pages of flames back and forth between us Canadians and the Russian posters...I think I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the game tomorrow heh. We can debate all day if Bergeron is better than Malkin, Crosby than Ovechkin, etc. Fact is none of that will matter tomorrow as it's a team game.

Hope it's a good one.
 
Sting004 said:
After reading pages of flames back and forth between us Canadians and the Russian posters...I think I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the game tomorrow heh. We can debate all day if Bergeron is better than Malkin, Crosby than Ovechkin, etc. Fact is none of that will matter tomorrow as it's a team game.

Hope it's a good one.

Amen.. both our countries have great forwards, and if Ovechkin is slightly better than Crosby or if Bergeron is better than Malkin, probably won't be the deciding factor.

Hockey is a team game, and we shall see who comes out on top..

Personally I'm just really nervous.. next 19 hours are going to be hell for me..
 
I want the game to be now wow.... its gonna be a good afternoon/night of hockey.

TSN 4 o clock bronze medal game, followed by the big show CANADA VS RUSSIA FOR THE GOLD!!!!


Go Canada gooooo!!!!!
 
18 hours before the puck drops..

you'd think I'm smart enough to go sleep now and kill off about 8 of those hours, but you are wrong..
 
19bruins19 said:
Please, you can't be serious. Carter is a better player than Shirokov.

I find some russian fans here, out of this world. Russian Homers are just unbelievable sometimes. They will give no credit what so ever to other opponents,r egardedless of how good other players are.
 
AgentNaslund said:
I find some russian fans here, out of this world. Russian Homers are just unbelievable sometimes. They will give no credit what so ever to other opponents,r egardedless of how good other players are.

yes, paint everyone with the same brush..
 
wilka91 said:
Russia should win this one.

Now that everybody knows that the group B, at the exception of Canada, totally sucked, and that Canada beat the Czech Republic 3-1, I believe Russia and Canada are evenly matched, but the Russians want the gold more, and will prevail!
Explain to me why Russia wants the Gold more? Canada should be hungrier since it hasn't won the precious metal since 1997 while Russia has won it a few times since.
 
Watching the Russia - USA game, some players that nobody talks about, but who could be dangerous IMO:

Pestunov
Lisin
Nikulin
Galimov
Shafigulin
Voloshenko


Parshin has awesome moves but he's just too damn small.. especially against Canada.. it's such a shame..
 
Canuck21t said:
Explain to me why Russia wants the Gold more? Canada should be hungrier since it hasn't won the precious metal since 1997 while Russia has won it a few times since.

Oh please, both teams are equally hungry... Canada's hunger for gold is obvious, but saying that Russia is any less hungry for it is ridiculous.

Ovechkin is the only one on this team who's ever won the WJCs, so the rest of the team is in the same boat as the Canadian players.. none of these guys have ever won it and thus all of them are hungry..

Just because Russia's won 2 golds in the last 3 years is meaningless.
 
7-1 Canada. They won't taunt the Russians either, the WHL'ers never even said boo when they beat them 11-1 or whatever it was.
 
tommi462 said:
You say Canadians weren't showing off, I can only ask you these:

What do you call it then when you pass from a scoring chance and end up losing the puck? What do you call it when you circle around the goal 2-3 times and don't take a shot even though you have a chance and end up losing the puck? (I call this showing off, maybe because I don't know a better word for it in the English language, but this is what I meant anyway.)
Showing off my butt. To you it may have been a scoring chance but to the player who is on the ice and in action, the angle was not deemed good enough to score. It's so easy to say things from afar but it's something else when you're actually the one doing the action.

The Soviets used to wait for the perfect play before they shoot, would you say that they were showing off? :speechles
 
MOGiLNY said:
Oh please, both teams are equally hungry... Canada's hunger for gold is obvious, but saying that Russia is any less hungry for it is ridiculous.

Ovechkin is the only one on this team who's ever won the WJCs, so the rest of the team is in the same boat as the Canadian players.. none of these guys have ever won it and thus all of them are hungry..

Just because Russia's won 2 golds in the last 3 years is meaningless.
I agree that the players on Russia's team are as hungry as the Canadians. I was just looking at the big picture of this tournament's recent history and Canada SHOULD be hungrier. It was just a theory in response to wilka91's comment which you have to agree was as ridiculous as mine.
 
Canuck21t said:
I agree that the players on Russia's team are as hungry as the Canadians. I was just looking at the big picture of this tournament's recent history and Canada SHOULD be hungrier. It was just a theory in response to wilka91's comment which you have to agree was as ridiculous as mine.
that would make sense if there wasn't so much turnover for the junior teams. as mentioned, only AO remains from their last gold medal team.
 
Dark Metamorphosis said:
that would make sense if there wasn't so much turnover for the junior teams. as mentioned, only AO remains from their last gold medal team.
Uh... yeah, I got MOGiLNY's point. You don't have to repeat it.
 
Canuck21t said:
Showing off my butt. To you it may have been a scoring chance but to the player who is on the ice and in action, the angle was not deemed good enough to score. It's so easy to say things from afar but it's something else when you're actually the one doing the action.

The Soviets used to wait for the perfect play before they shoot, would you say that they were showing off? :speechles

same goes for the taunting.. we don't know what the US fans were screaming at the Russians..
 
deandebean said:
What I meant is that Radulov is playing in a Canadian league, with Canadian (read here NHL) rules, on a Canadian ice surface (rink size). And in a league that isn't at par with the other 2 CHLs this season. And, no, I'm not talking (or rather writing!) about stats. I'm talking about his overall performance. Radulov cheats a lot on the ice. He's not the most reliable fella in his zone. And in North America, to play the game adequately, you need to be reliable in both ends.

Radulov has been a peripheral player this season. That doesn't cut it in North America.

Like you said, it's 2 different hockey styles. In North America, you need to play a more efficient game.


:shakehead :lol

a peripheral player that, prior to the WJC break was

1. Leading his team in points
2. One goal behind Josh Hennessy for the goalscoring lead on the team
3. Leading all rookies in points
4. Leading all rookies in goals
5. Fourth in the LEAGUE in power play goals

Quebec must be some team this year if their peripheral players are accomplishing all that. Sounds to me like you've got some unreasonable hate-on for Radulov, because you're one of the few that isn't predicting big things for him.
 
AgentNaslund said:
I find some russian fans here, out of this world. Russian Homers are just unbelievable sometimes. They will give no credit what so ever to other opponents,r egardedless of how good other players are.


"6-2, Canada" "Canada will win by at least 3 goals" " I predict the Russians won't get 10 shots the entire game"

I guess it's only "unbelievable" when you don't like what's being said?
 
MOGiLNY said:
same goes for the taunting.. we don't know what the US fans were screaming at the Russians..
The Russians were CLEARLY taunting but the question is was there something that caused that behavior? Most probably yes, the Americans were no angels. Canadians are not perfect either but to say that the Canadians were showing off because they were making one too many circles around the goal?!? Give me a break here. Next time, people are going to complain about Canadian's arrogance for purposely shooting at the goal post just to scare the opposition. :shakehead
 
Canuck21t said:
The Russians were CLEARLY taunting but the question is was there something that caused that behavior? Most probably yes, the Americans are no angels. Canadians are not perfect either but to say that the Canadians were showing off because they were making one too many circles around the goal?!? Give me a break here. Next time, people are going to complain about Canadian's arrogance for purposely shooting at the goal post just to scare the opposition. :shakehead

eh, I never said any of these things except that the Americans must've done something to cause the taunting..

nomorekids made a pretty good point though
 
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