Confirmed with Link: Pettersson Signs 8 Year Deal with the Vancouver Canucks, AAV $11.6M

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PuckMunchkin

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Are you ever going to hold this guy accountable for literally anything?

The last time my thighs were smaller than my biceps, I was 12 years old. A professional hockey player shouldn't look like an emaciated hipster. The guy just hasn't been putting in the work and it shows.
Ok Ill hold EP down so you can kick him in the head.

This. Everything else is fluff. IF YOU DEMAND THE "BIG" CONTRACT AND YOU DON'T ACCEPT A HOMETOWN DISCOUNT THEN YOU BETTER STEP UP. PERIOD.
He gave a discount.

He didnt demand shit, he was looking to not worry about the contract during the season.

He put this pressure on himself and he is the 5th highest paid player in the NHL.
 

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Huge offseason to build strength and skating balance. Needs to get better and way stronger. Is getting paid like McDavid, Draisaitl, Mackinnon, Matthews, Panarin, Pastrnak, has to improve significantly to justify the 5th highest salary in the league. Needs to be able carry his own line and dominate on the ice, he’s currently far from doing that, a lot of work to do.
 
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PuckMunchkin

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Huge offseason to build strength and skating balance. Needs to get better and way stronger. Is getting paid like McDavid, Draisaitl, Mackinnon, Matthews, Panarin, Pastrnak, has to improve significantly to justify the 5th highest salary in the league. Needs to be able carry his own line single handedly and dominate on the ice, he’s currently far from doing that, a lot of work to do.
Why?

Nobody in the league does that.

Why does EP40 need to do that?


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The players you listed:
McDavid :
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Draisaitl:

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MacKinnon:

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Matthews:

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Pasternak:

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And then EP40:

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One of these is not like the other.
 
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Bertuzzzi44

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Why?

Nobody in the league does that.

Why does EP40 need to do that?


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The players you listed:
McDavid :
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Draisaitl:

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MacKinnon:

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Matthews:

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Pasternak:

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And then EP40:

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One of these is not like the other.

At least make whatever line you’re on respectable and not a net negative, the 4th line was better than EP’s line, had to break up the Garland-Lindholm-Joshua line and put Lindholm with EP and move EP to the wing just to salvage him, the fact is he needs to improve significantly. We believe in him, the organization believes in him, hopefully he will improve significantly.
 
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Why?

Nobody in the league does that.

Why does EP40 need to do that?


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The players you listed:
McDavid :
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Draisaitl:

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MacKinnon:

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Matthews:

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Pasternak:

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And then EP40:

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One of these is not like the other.
Pasta’s is quite impressive actually, a good chunk of his mins were played without a top line caliber linemate and he had an amazing season.
 

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At least make whatever line you’re on respectable and not a net negative, the 4th line was better than EP’s line, had to break up the Garland-Lindholm-Joshua line and put Lindholm with EP and move EP to the wing just to salvage him, the fact is he needs to improve significantly. We believe in him, the organization believes in him, hopefully he will improve significantly.

You're essentially asking for McDavid, MacKinnon (current) or Crosby (prime) out of Pettersson when he simply isn't that. Even they'd all struggle to turn the chicken shit that was Ilya Mikheyev into chicken salad.

Pettersson has limitations in his game just like every other top end player that isn't superstar level. His seems to be dragging complete dead weight into respectable producers. I think had we gotten Toffoli or sign someone like Bertuzzi who are good but not terrific goal scorers, Petey could make them into better players.

To put it simply. Pettersson is the type of player who can likely make Bertuzzi into a 30 goal scorer because he's already talented but not someone who can drag a 10 goal scoring Mikheyev into 25+ production.
 

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This is pretty simple to answer.

If the injury is the type that wont get any better with rest.

Which injuries don't get better with rest? "Better" doesn't mean further recovery. I don't know if you ever play sports with an injury. Rest certainly does help.
 

PuckMunchkin

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At least make whatever line you’re on respectable and not a net negative, the 4th line was better than EP’s line, had to break up the Garland-Lindholm-Joshua line and put Lindholm with EP and move EP to the wing just to salvage him, the fact is he needs to improve significantly. We believe in him, the organization believes in him, hopefully he will improve significantly.
The Garland Lindholm Joshua line wasnt doing anything. It made sense to reunite the two with Blueger.

EPs line was controlling play befote that. Just not generating much in high danger chances.

Im sorry. I get being critical of him. He was no where near what he can be. But we need to be honest about what actually happened.
 

PuckMunchkin

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Which injuries don't get better with rest? "Better" doesn't mean further recovery..
Like a broken bone in your foot that will require surgery. Taking few days or weeks off wont make a difference.

Ill just ignore the rest of your post.
 

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just FYI, we are now on page 69

Which injuries don't get better with rest? "Better" doesn't mean further recovery. I don't know if you ever play sports with an injury. Rest certainly does help.
A lot of injuries don't get better with just plain rest. Herniated disc, things that need surgery correction like tendon/ligament related injuries, things that need reconstruction like ACL/MCL/ broken bones.
 

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You're essentially asking for McDavid, MacKinnon (current) or Crosby (prime) out of Pettersson when he simply isn't that. Even they'd all struggle to turn the chicken shit that was Ilya Mikheyev into chicken salad.

Pettersson has limitations in his game just like every other top end player that isn't superstar level. His seems to be dragging complete dead weight into respectable producers. I think had we gotten Toffoli or sign someone like Bertuzzi who are good but not terrific goal scorers, Petey could make them into better players.

To put it simply. Pettersson is the type of player who can likely make Bertuzzi into a 30 goal scorer because he's already talented but not someone who can drag a 10 goal scoring Mikheyev into 25+ production.

Bang on. He turned Kuzmenko into a 40 goal scorer last year when he was on. Even this year, with Kuzmenko playing poorly, having someone with even a modicum of offensive awareness on his line allowed him to perform in the first half of the season. Very curious which direction management goes in the off-season, as high hockey IQ should be priority number 1 in finding him a good running mate.

Hoglander was a great surprise this year, but his offensive awareness even while scoring was quite poor, and makes him a questionable fit long-term next to Petey. A lot of it was his sneaky shot and grinding in the corners to win battles, but if you watch closely his head was not on a swivel, and very very often missed open guys for scoring chances. (He has similar issues with his defensive awareness as well).

He needs to go to school with Burrows if he wants to be able to play with guys like Petey or Miller vs. being a bottom 6 scoring sparkplug on a contender.
 

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Why?

Nobody in the league does that.

Why does EP40 need to do that?


edit.

The players you listed:
McDavid :
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Draisaitl:

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MacKinnon:

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Matthews:

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Pasternak:

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And then EP40:

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One of these is not like the other.
You are right that Pettersson's production would have been improved somewhat by better wingers. But if he was playing like a 1st line centreman in the 2nd half of the regular season OR the playoffs, he would have been given 1st line wingers. I don't think Tocchet was biased against Pettersson at all. He was given 2nd/3rd line wingers and 2nd/3rd line matchups because he was playing like a 2nd/3rd line centreman.
 

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The Garland Lindholm Joshua line wasnt doing anything. It made sense to reunite the two with Blueger.

EPs line was controlling play befote that. Just not generating much in high danger chances.

Im sorry. I get being critical of him. He was no where near what he can be. But we need to be honest about what actually happened.

Lol the Garland-Lindholm-Joshua line was our best line along with the Suter-Miller-Boeser line. Then there was a big drop off and the next best line was our 4th line. The worst was the Pettersson line. Tocchet mentioned he didn’t want to split up his strongest line just to get a struggling player going, but to help insulate EP 5-on-5 he eventually had to put Lindholm with EP and move Petey to the wing. The fact is Pettersson wasn’t amongst the top 7-8 forwards on the team in the playoffs.
 

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If they want to re-sign Lindholm and keep him with his own line, they need to get Pettersson a legit winger. Mikheyev has negative finishing ability (they need to find a way to dump him this summer) and Hoglander is not a top-six guy, despite the goals. Even McDavid would struggle with Mikheyev on his line.

If they find a way to get Guentzel, Pettersson will be over 100 points again.
 

Bertuzzzi44

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If they want to re-sign Lindholm and keep him with his own line, they need to get Pettersson a legit winger. Mikheyev has negative finishing ability (they need to find a way to dump him this summer) and Hoglander is not a top-six guy, despite the goals. Even McDavid would struggle with Mikheyev on his line.

If they find a way to get Guentzel, Pettersson will be over 100 points again.


Mikheyev was terrible, agreed. Hoglander is solid though, he and Petey just need a tenacious puck retriever to play with, someone that’s a puck hound, owns the boards and is a net front presence.
 
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