Rumor: Pettersson and JT Miller Part XVIII: We wont play nice in the team sandbox

I mean Miller would be your clearcut 1C, he is significantly better than Fantilli at this stage even if he's had a weird year. He's also a beast on the PP. I think he'd fit well :dunno:


Sure bro, maybe the NHL can strive to be more like the NBA or NFL, where there is definitely no big personalities or interpersonal drama :laugh:
Oh I didn't know players attack each other and the managers air it out in the media in those sports.

Thanks for letting me know. Got 3-4 that happened last year you can tell me so I can check it out?
 
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Philly just sent the center the Canucks would of asked for back to Calgary.
They have Noah Cates listed in their top six on Puckmedia. He has ten goals this year.. And there is Scott Laughton. They have two first round picks. Ristoainenen. Drysdale? I don't what the value of Cates, or their other players are at this point. Most seem pretty average.

two 1sts, 3rd and some jobber like Scott Laughton for EP incoming
I think it would be Miller they like.
 
I wouldn't do Mateychuk straight up. After the Jirichek debacle he's untouchable.
Silly talk. Pettersson scored 100+ less than 2 years ago and is still in his mid-20s with club control. Not too long ago, he was considered a Top-10 player in the NHL. Any GM worth their salt trades Mateychuk for him immediately, lmao.
 
Silly talk. Pettersson scored 100+ less than 2 years ago and is still in his mid-20s with club control. Not too long ago, he was considered a Top-10 player in the NHL. Any GM worth their salt trades Mateychuk for him immediately, lmao.
Definitely not. We're tied for first in 5v5 goals. We need defense. Mateychuk is special.

I would be willing to bet more people agree with that than you think.
 
Philly just sent the center the Canucks would of asked for back to Calgary.
If the Flyers finagle a Pettersson trade it will need to be through a 3rd team interested in some of their high-end draft capital and futures. Canucks want proven roster players and contributors, not Philly's 1sts and prospects. Laughton/Cates could be part of a deal... but the main piece would need to be parlayed from the draft capital.
 
Pettersson for Cozens and Byram still the best trade so far I have seen.

Two players that can step in and help Vancouver immediately and I have a feeling Cozens would flourish in Vancouver since he isn't soft like Pettersson.

We like soft players in Buffalo, I mean finesse players.
 
Definitely not. We're tied for first in 5v5 goals. We need defense. Mateychuk is special.

I would be willing to bet more people agree with that than you think.
Mateychuk is a very nice, young player for sure. But, there are levels of "special"... and for him not to be included in a deal for Elias Pettersson, you'd be implying he's as special as Quinn Hughes, Cale Makar, or at the very least Rasmus Dahlin. And, if he was that special, he would have been a mainstay in Columbus no later than last season.

You're reacting based on Pettersson's lack of recent production and clouded by drama. You wouldn't be saying the same thing 18 months ago when he finished 10th in NHL scoring with 102 points and receiving votes for both the Hart and Selke.

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Oh I didn't know players attack each other and the managers air it out in the media in those sports.

Thanks for letting me know. Got 3-4 that happened last year you can tell me so I can check it out?
Well in like the last month or so Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown were publicly feuding on one of the best teams in the NFL with a teammate telling reporters that they're no longer friends because Hurts wasn't getting him the ball enough.

Meanwhile in the NBA Jimmy Butler is forcing his way off yet another team after publicly feuding with his own GM Pat Reilly, who told him, and I quote "to keep his mouth shut" after Jimmy proclaimed they would have won some playoff series if he hadn't been injured.

If you don't pay attention to other sports that's totally fine, but nobody gives a shit about this Petey Miller stuff outside of NHL circles, nor does is "embarrass the league."
 
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Well in like the last month or so Jalen Hurts and AJ Brown were publicly feuding on one of the best teams in the NFL with a teammate telling reporters that they're no longer friends because Hurts wasn't getting him the ball enough.

Meanwhile in the NBA Jimmy Butler is forcing his way off yet another team after publicly feuding with his own GM Pat Reilly, who told him, and I quote "to keep his mouth shut" after Jimmy proclaimed they would have won some playoff series if he hadn't been injured.

If you don't pay attention to other sports that's totally fine, but nobody gives a shit about this Petey Miller stuff outside of NHL circles, nor does is "embarrass the league."
And then the GM came out and aired the dirty laundry? You left that part out.
 
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Mateychuk is a very nice, young player for sure. But, there are levels of "special"... and for him not to be included in a deal for Elias Pettersson, you'd be implying he's as special as Quinn Hughes, Cale Makar, or at the very least Rasmus Dahlin. And, if he was that special, he would have been a mainstay in Columbus no later than last season.

You're reacting based on Pettersson's lack of recent production and clouded by drama. You wouldn't be saying the same thing 18 months ago when he finished 10th in NHL scoring with 102 points and receiving votes for both the Hart and Selke.

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As you stated that was 18 months ago. Patrick Laine was destined for glory and always given breaks based on his potential, but ultimately a distressed asset.

As for Mateychuk he could have made the team in either of the last 2 seasons but they didn’t want to rush him. As for special, he is special to the CBJ.

As for Petey his potential is nice but would not trade KJ, Fantilli, Mateychuk or any of our top 6 for Petey. He is a distressed asset right now, like a Laine or Jiricek, just let that sink in.

So if he is traded it will be for less than you value him.
 
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Mateychuk is a very nice, young player for sure. But, there are levels of "special"... and for him not to be included in a deal for Elias Pettersson, you'd be implying he's as special as Quinn Hughes, Cale Makar, or at the very least Rasmus Dahlin. And, if he was that special, he would have been a mainstay in Columbus no later than last season.

You're reacting based on Pettersson's lack of recent production and clouded by drama. You wouldn't be saying the same thing 18 months ago when he finished 10th in NHL scoring with 102 points and receiving votes for both the Hart and Selke.

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You literally didn't read anything I said and immediately got butthurt. We're fine offensively, and struggling defensively. Why in the world would we trade our only blue chip D prospect for more offense? Our season turned around quite literally the moment we called up Mateychuk. We've been a different team since. He missed a few games with an illness and we slipped. He came back and we beat two of the best defensive teams in the NHL back to back. He's our load bearing wall on defense.

If he was that special he'd be here last year? No they're developing him right.

Lastly, you putting Pettersson in a category with Makar and Hughes is high homer comedy.

Legitimately delusional take
See above.
 
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Silly talk. Pettersson scored 100+ less than 2 years ago and is still in his mid-20s with club control. Not too long ago, he was considered a Top-10 player in the NHL. Any GM worth their salt trades Mateychuk for him immediately, lmao.

The problem with Pettersson is he is being paid to put up 100 pts every year. Ability is there but is the consistency there? Regardless, teams are going to want to trade for him and rightfully so. He is a legit talent.
 
The problem with Pettersson is he is being paid to put up 100 pts every year. Ability is there but is the consistency there? Regardless, teams are going to want to trade for him and rightfully so. He is a legit talent.
I love how we keep cherry picking the 100 point year. Let's cherry pick this year them. 10+ mil for a 60 point player with issues. No thanks.
 
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The NHL absolutely loves dirty laundry.

Without it there'd be no ratings.
Yeah, I agree. The public airing of grievances might offend some of our sensibilities, but I don’t see how this has been bad for the NHL. Bad for the Canucks? Yes. Bad for a handful of players involved and rumoured to be involved in trade offers? In some cases yes, while some might actually be open to a trade and find it exciting that they are in the conversation. The NHL in general? Not a chance. These are the kind of stories that drive interest and discussion.
 
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Miller to Colorado would be sooo deadly, and it would also explain why they walked away from Rants soo easily.

return would be something like

To Van: Mittlestadt, Calum Ritchie, Girard, draft pick
Goodness.

You actually think the Avs would give up all that for Miller?
The rumored package from Carolina was Kotka, a 1st and maybe more.
 
Is he actually lazy though or is it just that he looks disinterested due to his introverted personality?

I doubt he got where he is by being lazy and not putting in the work.
Petterson has been endlessly called out by Tocchet, Allvin and Rutherford for his lack of commitment to off ice training and improvement. Has poor practice habits and came into camp in disappointing shape.

That's not Miller that's the entire chain of respected Canucks Brass calling Petey out.
 
Flyers have to be involved here.

They just opened up cap space and added picks, plus called up Andrae on D

York
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Flyers have to be involved here.

They just opened up cap space and added picks, plus called up Andrae on D

York
Brink
1st
Oh that will be fun Torts working with someone with bad practice habits (as stated from a previous poster - caboose)
 

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