Rumor: Pettersson and JT Miller Part XVIII: We wont play nice in the team sandbox

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Im not worried about Quinn Hughes in July 2028.

In worried about keeping him now. And building an actual contender.

Nils Hoglander
Phil Di Guiseppe
Danton Heinen
Linus Karlsson
Max Sasson
Noah Juulsen
Vinny Desharnais
Derek Forobort
Carson Soucy
Tyler Myers

There's over 10 roster spots already in need of an upgrade on the current roster.

The best two forwards are feuding and one is likely traded for a song here anyday now.

Boeser is a UFA seeking 7+ probably.

Demko is struggling badly and 1 year from UFA.

I do not care if on paper we get worse and Quinn gets unhappy. We have an opportunity to shed alot of longterm commitments only this silly season would afford. We need to be smart. Cant just br Miller needs to be thr whole lot, imo.

Aquire a warchest of ammo so WE are the team thats in on Miller's and Pettersson's and Boeser's when they become available.
That's not what you said though? You are saying getting rid of all of them this season. This isn't replacing peanuts. Replacing players like that takes years. Replacing a player like Quinn takes generations. Getting rid of them is fine, but if you are just going to bin it on Quinn, then prepare for another 50 years + of no cups.
 
You can't base your entire strategy around one player at the detriment of a long term path to being a consistent contender. If Hughes isn't willing to be captain and struggle for a few more years, than he clearly isn't that interested in staying to begin with.
Normally yes, but Quinn is a player who can drag your team to a Stanley Cup. The guy is a generational talent on Defense. Players like Quinn don't come often, they never come to Vancouver either. And what's the plan? To just yeet him out? I am not even a Canucks fan. I've lived in Vancouver my whole life, so I know the team very well over the last 35 years. The idea that some Canuck fans think trading Quinn and or not realizing building around him and using his prime years right now to push for a cup, the city has never had, is just asinine.
 
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Does anyone know what exactly the rift is? Is it an on ice thing, off ice? Are they both being unreasonable?
 
Normally yes, but Quinn is a player who can drag your team to a Stanley Cup. The guy is a generational talent on Defense. Players like Quinn don't come often, they never come to Vancouver either. And what's the plan? To just yeet him out? I am not even a Canucks fan. I've lived in Vancouver my whole life, so I know the team very well over the last 35 years. The idea that some Canuck fans think trading Quinn and or not realizing building around him and using his prime years right now to push for a cup, the city has never had, is just asinine.
I never said trade him. Its totally up to him if he chooses to resign or leave. A player isnt supposed to be able to control what happens with team management.
 
Does anyone know what exactly the rift is? Is it an on ice thing, off ice? Are they both being unreasonable?

JT Miller is an ultra competitive asshole who gets on teammates and Pettersson is the guy who is in his crosshairs due to his soft inconsistent play.

Both are at fault.

Pettersson for underplaying.

JT Miller for thinking he is Michael Jordan.
 
Does anyone know what exactly the rift is? Is it an on ice thing, off ice? Are they both being unreasonable?

I suspect the rift magnified during last years playoffs.

Miller leads by example and is ultra competitive.

He will go through a wall even when he is hurt and he doesnt make or accepts excuses.

Last year though, Pettersson was dealing with tendinitis (still is) and even revealed it at the year end presser that he was hurt.

I think Miller didnt care that Pettersson was hurt and still expected result and production from Pettersson which did not happen during the playoffs.
 
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**update**

According to Dhaliwal, The Colorado Avalanche might be in on the Miller sweepstakes.

Dhaliwall says Colorado was interested in Miller 2 years ago where the centre piece of the trade was Newhook + Byram for Miller.


 
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Can someone help a brother out? What is the actual issue here?

Is Miller an A hole and had a (or massive) massive arguments with EP40?

Did EP40 sleep with millers wife?

Does one skate with the team while the other is scratched and they can't even travel on the same plane?

Are they on the same practice rink with each other at all?

Why trade both? Wouldn't it be better to choose if your Vancouver? Keep one and trade one?
 
Can someone help a brother out? What is the actual issue here?

Is Miller an A hole and had a (or massive) massive arguments with EP40?

Did EP40 sleep with millers wife?

Does one skate with the team while the other is scratched and they can't even travel on the same plane?

Are they on the same practice rink with each other at all?

Why trade both? Wouldn't it be better to choose if your Vancouver? Keep one and trade one?

Theyve played together for 6 years.

Bodereau says they didnt get along back then as well but obviously they were able to work through their differences.

They were on a very successful line together called the "lottery line" along with Boeser

Whatever issue they had, they were able to be professionals about it on the ice...even now. Thay play on the PP together and the Lotto line was actually actiavted for a shift yesterday.


Last year they were a winning team, winning solves all issues.

This year, the Canucks are under performing and the rift has been magnified.

Miller took a personal leave of absence , there are speculations that an incident occuerred and he crossed the line either with Pettersson or Toch.


Management has decided there is a chemistry issue.

Miller is likely the one leaving because he is 32 yrs old and EP40 is 26.

I think Miller is as good as gone , small chance by the deadline but for sure during the off-season,


Ep40 isnt going anywhere unless the Canucks get a massive Godfther offfer.
 
JT Miller is an ultra competitive asshole who gets on teammates and Pettersson is the guy who is in his crosshairs due to his soft inconsistent play.

Both are at fault.

Pettersson for underplaying.

JT Miller for thinking he is Michael Jordan.
The issue is that ultra-competitive asshole is just as guilty with his own sulky less than inspired play for long stretches. That's when that type of personality really becomes exhausting to deal with. You see it every team sport at every level and honestly in every work place. Even beer league you deal with that type of guy. You put it up with it for a few seasons because when he's on you are unstoppable. But eventually you start to realize you aren't looking forward to the next game when role-call is taken on the group text and that guy says he is in for the game. And then you are happy when they say they are out.

Like any workplace....when the jerks are on vacation you have a much better and more productive week.
 
**update**

According to Dhaliwal, The Colorado Avalanche might be in on the Miller sweepstakes.

Dhaliwall says Colorado was interested in Miller 2 years ago where the centre piece of the trade was Newhook + Byram for Miller.




Miller to Colorado would be sooo deadly, and it would also explain why they walked away from Rants soo easily.

return would be something like

To Van: Mittlestadt, Calum Ritchie, Girard, draft pick
 
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The issue is that ultra-competitive asshole is just as guilty with his own sulky less than inspired play for long stretches. That's when that type of personality really becomes exhausting to deal with. You see it every team sport at every level and honestly in every work place. Even beer league you deal with that type of guy. You put it up with it for a few seasons because when he's on you are unstoppable. But eventually you start to realize you aren't looking forward to the next game when role-call is taken on the group text and that guy says he is in for the game. And then you are happy when they say they are out.

Like any workplace....when the jerks are on vacation you have a much better and more productive week.


yea definitely think its JT more at fault and the guy who should be moved. I think the whole canucks room and not just Elias will be able to take a deep breath after Miller is gone.

JT Miller is nowhere near good enough to act like he does, like when Jordan or Brady do it, it's actually motivating since they walk the talk all the time and win and are actually superhuman inspiring figures.

also i'm guessing Hughes is closer to Pettersson than Miller? more than anything it seems like they should keep Quinn happy.
 
how would people rank and rate the following players based on teams reportedly interested in Miller. Who is the best out of these....


Mercer
Mittlestadt
Chytil
Kotkaniemi
 
EP40

For

Mikael Granlund
Will Smith or Quentin Musty
Sj 2025 2nd

Both teams should be happy walking out of the meeting room, SJ gets the best player in the deal, Van gets 2C replacement at cheap plus a promising young prospect. I think value wise it is very close given the situation Van is in.
 
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EP40

For

Mikael Granlund
Fabian Zetterland or Quentin Musty
Sj 2025 2nd

Both teams should be happy walking out of the meeting room, SJ gets the best player in the deal, Van gets 2C replacement at cheap plus a promising young prospect. I think value wise it is very close given the situation Van is in.
That might be the worst one yet!
 
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EP40

For

Mikael Granlund
Fabian Zetterland or Quentin Musty
Sj 2025 2nd

Both teams should be happy walking out of the meeting room, SJ gets the best player in the deal, Van gets 2C replacement at cheap plus a promising young prospect. I think value wise it is very close given the situation Van is in.

In what universe does this make Vancouver happy? Granlund's a UFA and Zetterland is a 25 year "prospect" who's nothing special. Nobody cares about a 2nd round pick in this kind of deal.

If we're trading Pettersson, you're trading a roster player and/or high level prospect you'd prefer not to. Don't believe me? Carolina reopened discussions about Necas+ for Pettersson until Rantanen became available. Necas alone is better than this.
 
Miller to Colorado would be sooo deadly, and it would also explain why they walked away from Rants soo easily.

return would be something like

To Van: Mittlestadt, Calum Ritchie, Girard, draft pick
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how would people rank and rate the following players based on teams reportedly interested in Miller. Who is the best out of these....


Mercer
Mittlestadt
Chytil
Kotkaniemi
1. Mercer, 2. Mittlestadt, 3. Chytil, 4. Kotkaniemi
 
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Miller to Colorado would be sooo deadly, and it would also explain why they walked away from Rants soo easily.

return would be something like

To Van: Mittlestadt, Calum Ritchie, Girard, draft pick
Don't see Girard there and not sure Avs would trade Ritchie
 
**update**

According to Dhaliwal, The Colorado Avalanche might be in on the Miller sweepstakes.

Dhaliwall says Colorado was interested in Miller 2 years ago where the centre piece of the trade was Newhook + Byram for Miller.



So they could have had JT instead of Mitts for pretty much Byram. Would Mitts+Newhook get you JT? Unless they get real desperate, I doubt it.
 
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