Peterborough Petes 2024-25 Season Thread, Part II

[User13452]

Is the rule different then the nhl? Thats a goal all day

 

[HabsPetes119]

That's the worst call I've seen in my life.

 

[OMEGARAZER]

Is the rule different then the nhl? Thats a goal all day

When the referee making the call requested to call the game because they have a relative going into their HoF it's different apparently.

 

[User13452]

Parish has no business being on either powerplay lol. They give up more short handed chances each powerplay then they get offensive chances it’s pathetic

 

[WillardJFredricks]

Parish has no business being on either powerplay lol. They give up more short handed chances each powerplay then they get offensive chances it’s pathetic

I'd rather Parish than Taylor...at least if Parish causes a turnover he'll make an effort to get back on D.

 

[OMEGARAZER]

Looks like we don't get to mark losing a tie game off the bingo card this time, close to it though.

 

[Fastpace]

Is the rule different then the nhl? Thats a goal all day

I agree

I am wondering, and they did not say, if the goalpost was off its mooring before Eliot push it with his skate. This would mean the post off before the shot was taken, or the referee was in process of blowing the play dead. That would be the only logical reasons, I wish the refs would spell out with more clarity why their review decisions were made, if only for the fans

 

[OMEGARAZER]

...if the goalpost was off its mooring before Eliot push it with his skate.

It was not.

...the referee was in process of blowing the play dead.

He was not, he didn't start to raise his arm till after the puck was in the net.

 

[Fastpace]

It was not.

He was not, he didn't start to raise his arm till after the puck was in the net.
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You are right, the ref did have his arm down. Next, was the net off its mooring before the shot was taken, it would appear to be in the one from the top view. If we look at the top of the net corners, the one at the bottom of the screen, the corner shows partially to the left of redline in the blue paint. While the one at the top of the screen, the corner that came off shows it more to the right toward the inside of the net. I am wondering if this is what they saw, they would likely have better views, to me, I would have said a good goal, but they have other rules to follow

 

[Ryan Christensen]

Gotta reward rye on Sunday give him sarnia

Saturday sorry

 

[OMEGARAZER]

Next, was the net off its mooring before the shot was taken, it would appear to be in the one from the top view. If we look at the top of the net corners, the one at the bottom of the screen, the corner shows partially to the left of redline in the blue paint. While the one at the top of the screen, the corner that came off shows it more to the right toward the inside of the net. I am wondering if this is what they saw, they would likely have better views, to me, I would have said a good goal, but they have other rules to follow

Regardless if it was before the shot or not, this rule still exists. Even if they were to go with "it wasn't intentional" it's still a goal by the rules. Stonehouse has the puck and is about to shoot when Elliot pushes the net off its mooring.

 

[Fastpace]

Regardless if it was before the shot or not, this rule still exists. Even if they were to go with "it wasn't intentional" it's still a goal by the rules. Stonehouse has the puck and is about to shoot when Elliot pushes the net off its mooring.

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It appears the post was already off its mooring before Stonehouse even had the puck or Eliot's skate touch the goalpost

According to OHL rules, if the net is off its mooring significantly before a potential goal scoring situation, play will be stopped immediately and a "delay of game" penalty will be assessed to the responsible player on the team that dislodged the net, regardless of whether the goal was intentionally knocked off its moorings; a goal cannot be awarded in this scenario unless the situation falls under specific "awarded goal" rules where a defending player deliberately displaces the net to prevent a clear scoring opportunity with the goaltender pulled.

No goal allowed if net is off its mooring:
Generally, a goal cannot be awarded if the net is not properly secured on its moorings, even if the puck crosses the goal line

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[OMEGARAZER]

It appears the post was already off its mooring before Stonehouse even had the puck or Eliot's skate touch the goalpost

Did you watch the same thing as the rest of us? Stonehouse is stickhandling it before he even enters the overhead shot when Elliot hits the post.

According to OHL rules, if the net is off its mooring significantly before a potential goal scoring situation, play will be stopped immediately and a "delay of game" penalty will be assessed to the responsible player on the team that dislodged the net, regardless of whether the goal was intentionally knocked off its moorings; a goal cannot be awarded in this scenario unless the situation falls under specific "awarded goal" rules where a defending player deliberately displaces the net to prevent a clear scoring opportunity with the goaltender pulled.

Since it wasn't significantly before the opportunity this is moot, BUT, even if we go down this route, where was the delay of game penalty? Also, the rule (25.2, I posted it) specifically says "either deliberately or accidentally."

 

[Fastpace]

Did you watch the same thing as the rest of us? Stonehouse is stickhandling it before he even enters the overhead shot when Elliot hits the post.

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Since it wasn't significantly before the opportunity this is moot, BUT, even if we go down this route, where was the delay of game penalty? Also, the rule (25.2, I posted it) specifically says "either deliberately or accidentally."

If the net was off long before, did you see who actually did knocked off the net, I didn't. I agree, the goal should have counted, I am just trying to figure out why the call

 

[OMEGARAZER]

If the net was off long before, did you see who actually did knocked off the net, I didn't. I agree, the goal should have counted, I am just trying to figure out why the call

It just wasn't off beforehand though... If it was, Elliot slides into the post and the net continues off its moorings with him. It didn't come off till he pushed off the post back toward the center of the crease.

 

[EastAveRangers]

This exact same scenario happened last year in the playoffs between London and Kitchener, and they awarded the goal to London. The puck never even entered the net the same way it did tonight for Peterborough.

It’s London rule book, we’re all just living in it.

 

[Petes1987]

This exact same scenario happened last year in the playoffs between London and Kitchener, and they awarded the goal to London. The puck never even entered the net the same way it did tonight for Peterborough.

It’s London rule book, we’re all just living in it.
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There was a saying a few years back in Peterborough
that OHL stands for Ontario Hockey League Helps London.