Player Discussion Peter Cehlarik - II

[prizminferno]

Backes' possession numbers the last 4 games are some of the best on team

 

[rocketdan9]

And that’s what makes it harder for kids like him and Donato to crack a lineup that’s in this position. Nothing against either one, but in Cehlarik’s case he seems to be running out of time

yes... and its because Cassidy had this kind of similar issue for two... now three seasons in a row now

its the same kind of mistakes in his eyes that infuriates him. When will he get it? seems to be his message

Donato also (lesser extent).... but because these guys aren't following the routes, Bruins way...whatever Cassidy classifies it....they don't get time late in games nor on three on threes

BUT Donato has been getting these min with the Wild and he has been producing

Vatrano has 20 plus goals this season...

It's a "fit" issue

 

[missingchicklet]

He put a puck on Backes's stick all alone with a wide open net and he found glove. Backes and Nordstrom cost you games when all they can do in the offensive zone is throw the puck into the corner.

It's absolutely astounding how many plays die on Nordstrom's stick. Been paying attention to it in recent games, and it's a real issue. His lack of production and playmaking is awful. December 17th is the last time he registered a point. 20 games played by Nordstrom have passed since then. He needs to be nowhere near any line other than the 4th, and I have to admit I have changed my mind on him replacing Acciari on that line. Acciari has been bringing more to the table than Nordstrom. Would prefer someone who is solid defensively yet can produce better over either one of them, though. I hope that Cehlarik gets a little longer leash in coming games and let him work through his mistakes, like many other players have been allowed to do. He adds a nice dimension to the third line, a line that absolutely needs to produce points once the playoffs start. Nordstrom or Backes pretty much kill the point in trading for Coyle. Once Pasta is back Heinen and Cehlarik need to be with Coyle. That line is not going to hurt you defensively, and has a pretty good chance of developing chemistry and adding offensive punch.

 

[Chief Nine]

yes... and its because Cassidy had this kind of similar issue for two... now three seasons in a row now

its the same kind of mistakes in his eyes that infuriates him. When will he get it? seems to be his message

Donato also (lesser extent).... but because these guys aren't following the routes, Bruins way...whatever Cassidy classifies it....they don't get time late in games nor on three on threes

BUT Donato has been getting these min with the Wild and he has been producing

Vatrano has 20 plus goals this season...

It's a "fit" issue

Couldn’t have said it any better. If the B’s were out of the playoffs then yes, absolutely let these guys learn and deal with the plusses and minuses, but they’re in a dogfight for home ice right now and they need reliability on all 4 lines

 

[BlackFrancis]

I don't think it was a specific play or multiple plays last night. Everybody makes mistakes. The dude was playing straight up lazy hockey. It's one of those things that doesn't always translate well on TV broadcasts but is glaring live. Going half speed, watching plays happen, getting knocked down and not getting back up immediately. Bob Sweeney used to be a great one for illustrating lazy hockey.

I've liked Celarik since his first stint in Boston and chalked up most of his inability to stick as bad luck. That performance last night is the kind of thing that gets a one way ticket to Providence, though.

 

[ODAAT]

He put a puck on Backes's stick all alone with a wide open net and he found glove. Backes and Nordstrom cost you games when all they can do in the offensive zone is throw the puck into the corner.

Backes has been better lately but the bar was/is set so low that it`s hard not to be, really anxious to have Pasta come back allowing Butch to put some skill next to Coyle

 

[ODAAT]

I don't think it was a specific play or multiple plays last night. Everybody makes mistakes. The dude was playing straight up lazy hockey. It's one of those things that doesn't always translate well on TV broadcasts but is glaring live. Going half speed, watching plays happen, getting knocked down and not getting back up immediately. Bob Sweeney used to be a great one for illustrating lazy hockey.

I've liked Celarik since his first stint in Boston and chalked up most of his inability to stick as bad luck. That performance last night is the kind of thing that gets a one way ticket to Providence, though.

good post, waving at a player with your stick as they pass by isn`t a good look and if I/We can see it from our couches, surely Butch and his assistants can. I understand Cehlarik likely wasn`t handled perfectly this year but the kid needs to grow a set, bare down and play the way he`s capable of, he is not in the position to take a shift off. Kuhlman is hardly as skilled as Cehlarik but with him, there are no shortcuts and if and when Kuhlman did make a mistake Butch still sent him back out because that mistake was not due to lack of effort, can` t say that about Cehlarik

 

[Alicat]

good post, waving at a player with your stick as they pass by isn`t a good look and if I/We can see it from our couches, surely Butch and his assistants can. I understand Cehlarik likely wasn`t handled perfectly this year but the kid needs to grow a set, bare down and play the way he`s capable of, he is not in the position to take a shift off. Kuhlman is hardly as skilled as Cehlarik but with him, there are no shortcuts and if and when Kuhlman did make a mistake Butch still sent him back out because that mistake was not due to lack of effort, can` t say that about Cehlarik

Well said because this is where I am with him at this point.

It is up to Cehlarik at this point.

 

[dafoomie]

It's absolutely astounding how many plays die on Nordstrom's stick. Been paying attention to it in recent games, and it's a real issue. His lack of production and playmaking is awful. December 17th is the last time he registered a point. 20 games played by Nordstrom have passed since then. He needs to be nowhere near any line other than the 4th, and I have to admit I have changed my mind on him replacing Acciari on that line. Acciari has been bringing more to the table than Nordstrom. Would prefer someone who is solid defensively yet can produce better over either one of them, though. I hope that Cehlarik gets a little longer leash in coming games and let him work through his mistakes, like many other players have been allowed to do. He adds a nice dimension to the third line, a line that absolutely needs to produce points once the playoffs start. Nordstrom or Backes pretty much kill the point in trading for Coyle. Once Pasta is back Heinen and Cehlarik need to be with Coyle. That line is not going to hurt you defensively, and has a pretty good chance of developing chemistry and adding offensive punch.

Backes has been guilty of that to a degree and I don't understand why. In Coyle's first shift with the team, Backes has the puck in the neutral zone before what should've been a 3 on 2 with Coyle and Cehlarik rushing up ice trying to give him an outlet. Backes doesn't get his feet moving quick enough, still has time to at least get the puck up to them but he just throws it on goal from the red line. Slow feet I can understand but he seems like he's not even thinking offense most of the time.

 

[DarrenBanks56]

His turnover was DIRECTLY to a goal, the Steen 2 on 1

rask shoudve stopped that

 

[CDJ]

rask shoudve stopped that

A talented player walking in all alone from the slot? It was a snipe.


Can’t stop everything. Was a brutal giveaway by Cehlarik.

 

[Blowfish]

delete

 

[Blowfish]

I love what Cassidy has done with this team since taking over and trust his judgement. He has the speedy creative D involved and the forwards pressing / playing within a system. Cehlarik was good early on however has since regressed playing tentative hockey. Based on what I'm reading Cassidy isn't ready to let him play Cehlarik hockey (risk / reward) hockey. And I agree with Cassidy. This isn't what is being asked of his players. Play smart within the system hockey and capitalize with smart plays.

The other issue with Cehlarik is "at this time" he's one demential. Offensive minded only. He won't ever be relied to play hard forecheck/defensive hockey. Something Cassidy requires of all his players / much needed in the playoffs.

He will be sent back down soon (and should be). I still believe he's going to be a top 6 player but not on this team. He works on his skating he could be real good.

 

[Ratty]

I love what Cassidy has done with this team since taking over and trust his judgement. He has the speedy creative D involved and the forwards pressing / playing within a system. Cehlarik was good early on however has since regressed playing tentative hockey. Based on what I'm reading Cassidy isn't ready to let him play Cehlarik hockey (risk / reward) hockey. And I agree with Cassidy. This isn't what is being asked of his players. Play smart within the system hockey and capitalize with smart plays.

The other issue with Cehlarik is "at this time" he's one demential. Offensive minded only. He won't ever be relied to play hard forecheck/defensive hockey. Something Cassidy requires of all his players / much needed in the playoffs.

He will be sent back down soon (and should be). I still believe he's going to be a top 6 player but not on this team. He works on his skating he could be real good.

Shame about Cehlarik, becoming “demential” at the age of 23.

 

[ODAAT]

Shame about Cehlarik, becoming “demential” at the age of 23.

I`ve been there but it was booze/narcotic induced

I have, once again, become less enthused with Cehlarik`s game

 

[Blowfish]

Shame about Cehlarik, becoming “demential” at the age of 23.

OMG too funny...That would be me not Cehlarik.

 

[mjhfb]

There has to be something there, Cassidy had him serve another TMM, I think that's three or four in a row. Coaches don't do that to their favorites.

 

[Rubber Biscuit]

There has to be something there, Cassidy had him serve another TMM, I think that's three or four in a row. Coaches don't do that to their favorites.

They do it to guys who don’t kill penalties. Probably pick the guy who you’d go to last in a PK situation.

I think that’s pretty much it

 

[CDJ]

Yeah he’s not going to kill any penalties and he has some skill so if they get lucky on the timing they can hit a guy with solid hands for a breakaway

I would imagine that is more or less why he’s the guy often chosen to serve TMM penalties

 

[mjhfb]

They do it to guys who don’t kill penalties. Probably pick the guy who you’d go to last in a PK situation.

I think that’s pretty much it

Forget what I think, go to the 23 minute mark on the podcast:
March 7: Leafs still trying to find their fourth line - Sportsnet.ca

 

[rocketdan9]

Maybe nail in the coffin game for Cehlarik

Poor game

He has had a few of these now

 

[Blowfish]

Maybe nail in the coffin game for Cehlarik

Poor game

He has had a few of these now

He hasnt had the minutes but I don’t think he deserves them either. To me it appears his confidence was left behind after his first 3 games. He hasn't looked anywhere like the Cehlarik I remember watching last 2 years.

I’m a big supporter but on this team he doesn’t fit the system or style play Cassidy is wanting from his Players.

It will be interesting to see where he ends up next season.

Time for someone else in Providence to get a shot.

 

[rocketdan9]

He hasnt had the minutes but I don’t think he deserves them either. Too me it appears his confidence was left behind after his first 3 games.

I’m a big supporter but on this team he doesn’t fit the system or style play Cassidy is wanting from his Players.

Will be interesting to see where he ends up next season.

Time for someone else in Providence to get a shot.

Teams were interested in him in last years trade deadline and also this years. But who knows what was offered

Cassidy will not be patient one second when it comes to rookie mistakes.... but has all the confidence in the world in vets or guys who put up points (Krug for example)

Cehlarik right now may very well need to go into a system that forgives his mistakes and lets him play through it. Eventually if he keeps messing up, he won't be able to play in this league

 

[UncleRico]

yes... and its because Cassidy had this kind of similar issue for two... now three seasons in a row now

its the same kind of mistakes in his eyes that infuriates him. When will he get it? seems to be his message

Donato also (lesser extent).... but because these guys aren't following the routes, Bruins way...whatever Cassidy classifies it....they don't get time late in games nor on three on threes

BUT Donato has been getting these min with the Wild and he has been producing

Vatrano has 20 plus goals this season...

It's a "fit" issue

The fit issue is that players like donato, bjork, cehlarik have spent much of their 2018-2019 season with guys like frederic, backes and Nordstrom as their linemates.

 

[False Start]

He's gotta be in his own head at this point right?