Rumor: Per Kevin Weekes. Shesterkin rejects NYRs $88M / 11M AAV offer

[Luck 6]

Goalie market is being reset. You have a top Goaltender that you don't want to lose, you pay him like you do every other top player. Why should arguably the game's best goaltender take less than Will Nye with one 10th place in point finishes as his high watermark before signing?

The thing about goalies is, there are only 32 starting positions available in the NHL. If you can get a "decent" goalie for 2mil, and a great goalie for 11mil, is the difference really worth 8mil? That's the question, and I'm just not so sure for goalies...

Relating that to my team, if Demko wanted 11mil, and we could have Silovs for 0.85mil, I take Silovs and an additional 10.15mil of roster depth.

 

[DJJones]

Never count out Vegas, they're always looking to land a big fish. But I don't think they pursue it right away as Samsonov has looked good for them so far.

But just the thought of Shesterkin playing in Cassidy's system long term would be scary for the entire league. He would put up prime Hasek type numbers.

They have no cap space and have no assets to offer a haul.

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

It depends. If you have to give up a ton of assets plus pay a guy $12-13 million a year into his late 30s that's not too appealing.

Most contenders would need to strip their teams down to be able to squeeze him under the cap. And non-contenders wouldn't want to give up the assets required to get him. I suspect the market would not be large.

Carolina Hurricanes have entered the chat.

 

[TGWL]

Swayman milked the Bruins organization to get every last penny out of them. If I was a Bruins fan, I wouldn't be impressed with Jeremy's antics. The guy wasn't willing to take any discount whatsoever to allow the franchise to build a winner around him long term.

Bergeron, Chara, Rask, Marchand all took discounts in the past to allow the organization to build a winner around them.

I'm not saying he didn't. I'm just saying from all reports, Shesterkin's ask sounded almost absurd from the start,

 

[BKarchitect]

He’s the best goalie in the league. It’s not just peak ability - it’s his consistency the past three seasons. At 28 he’s just entering his prime as a goalie. I’m not sure why folks consider 30 to be some magic barrier for goalies. He’s got basically an entire prime ahead of him.

Now, I agree - it will be fascinating to see what the best goalie in the world in his prime is worth…to the Rangers or if not them, whomever…in a league and state of discussion that really downplays the value of high level goaltending.

 

[Breakers]

Laughing at your own ignorance is pretty astounding. I know you think you made a good point, but you did not, move along now.

Yawn…..
so we have baseball and quarterbacks

And other trash comparisons you want to make while you’re here?

 

[Rebels57]

I think that all but confirms he wants out of New York.

 

[WarriorofTime]

The thing about goalies is, there are only 32 starting positions available in the NHL. If you can get a "decent" goalie for 2mil, and a great goalie for 11mil, is the difference really worth 8mil? That's the question, and I'm just not so sure for goalies...

Relating that to my team, if Demko wanted 11mil, and we could have Silovs for 0.85mil, I take Silovs and an additional 10.15mil of roster depth.

In the big pad, high leaguewide save % era, this was the exact thinking. Basically Goalies are the RB of Hockey. Even if one guy isn't there, who cares, plug in the next guy and he'll be almost as good. Now that pads have shrunk and leaguewide save % is way down, that makes a premium goaltender more valuable. I think the NHL is a bit slow to realize this though.

 

[GbgRanger]

Offer him 13x6

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

I think that all but confirms he wants out of New York.

I think that all but confirms he knows there's still room to negotiate for more money over the next 8 months.

 

[Jeune Poulet]

Shesterkin knows that teams usually end up flinching.

He is also helped by the Bruins, who got screwed by Swayman and by Bettman, who already projects a massive cap increase for 25-26.

 

[HelmutCool]

Only positive here for Rangers is that their offensive core will fall off the cliff in 3-4 years anyway. Ziba, Kreider, Panarin, Trocheck because of their ages. Wont need to worry about the 3-4 bad years at the end of the 8year contract.

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

1. It's $3M more plus whatever he could potentially earn in that 8th year on a new contract.

2. Realistically if they're already offering $11M/per in October, he knows he can get more before July. It's posturing.

At 37 years old, probably not a ton.

 

[HBK27]

That's like asking how can Baseball teams commit a huge chunk of their payroll to starters that only pitch one out of every five games. Or how can NFL teams commit big cap dollars to a Quarterback that only plays half the game.

Because they disproportionately affect winning in the games they do participate in.

Not to mention that starting goalies also have more overall TOI throughout the season than any skaters.

 

[Edgelord]

I find it hard to believe that he said no to 11x8

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Not to mention that starting goalies also have more overall TOI throughout the season than any skaters.

Yeah, but they're also basically doing nothing when the puck is in the offensive zone, and doing not a lot when the puck is in the neutral zone. Unless you want to give them a bunch of credit for teams not being able to fire the puck down from their own end and score.

 

[ffh]

Trade him

Who trading for him. With that ask

 

[FriendlyGhost92]

At 37 years old, probably not a ton.

Depends how he ages. Barring some sort of catastrophe, the cap will be around ~$125M by year 8.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Kind of shocking to be honest. Even IF he wanted out of New York, that’s a massive contract to simply turn down. I doubt he will get that offer anywhere else.

 

[Rich Nixon]

LOL
How can you have that high of an AAV for a guy who sits on the bench for 30 games?????

Right? That money should be reserved for star centers who play all 60 minutes of all 82 games.

 

[Jean Luc Discard]

Jack that price up to $12mil per.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I'm not saying he didn't. I'm just saying from all reports, Shesterkin's ask sounded almost absurd from the start,

I'm not surprised that Igor is asking for this much. He just about single handedly dragged his team to the cup final last year. In fact he was the main reason NY made it to the final 4 last year. This Rangers team is a borderline playoff team without him and no chance they win the Presidents trophy.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Kind of shocking to be honest. Even IF he wanted out of New York, that’s a massive contract to simply turn down. I doubt he will get that offer anywhere else.

Teams don't hesitate offering soft wingers obscene amounts of money. How about offer that money for a goalie that can actually win you something?

 

[HBK27]

It might not solely be the $11M AAV that he turned down, but also the way the contract is structured. Bobrovsky got a ton of signing bonuses in his deal, which bump up the actual value, as well as NMC/trade protections and a lot of money up front. Lots of details about this contract offer that we still don't know. Probably not a good sign though that the Rangers are presumably leaking the details of the offer.

 

[Kravtsov420]

I can’t blame Shesty watching out for himself, especially with this franchise’s track record when it comes to putting a competent team in front of him.

He’s seen what this organization did to Hank and said f*** that. Im watching out for me.