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People who think Nathan Mackinnon is the best player in the world, can we all just be kind of agree that… he’s not?

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I think this is a weird tournament where you will definitely have certain players fired up about it, while others are most concerned about their NHL team's stretch drive and playoffs
 
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I can see MacKinnon thinking more about preserving his energy a bit in order to close out his first Art Ross trophy. Kucherov and Draisaitl have time to rest
 
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I really like MacKinnon as a player, but it's hard to put him above McDavid at this point. I think he is in a position to challenge for the title after winning the Hart and Lindsay, but he hasn't clearly overtaken him yet.

I know he has a huge lead in points on him this season, but on a per game basis they're quite a lot closer, and I believe MacKinnon has like 12 empty net points while McDavid has none. I know empty netters are still points and all, but we're talking about a huge difference here.
 
GeeoffBrown said:
I can see MacKinnon thinking more about preserving his energy a bit in order to close out his first Art Ross trophy. Kucherov and Draisaitl have time to rest
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Im seeing something like that in Aho too, funny that Rantanen seems the total opposite. Canes are obviously going all in this season.
 
I mean he is or isn't, its close, if he isn't the best hes the 2nd or 3rd best. McDavid MacKinnon Makar is the top3 it's mostly just preference on who is the #1

Shit, i could even say Q.Hughes and Hellebuyck are in the conversation as well.
 
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gritdash60 said:
Lets be honest i forgot him. Thats what happens when you got McDavid on your team lol, my bad!

Kuch too, but i hate russia and russians big time so f*** him.
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Fatass said:
For the greatest players to be tiered, yes. The greatest are all fantastic. They all win awards. They all have big points. Dionne had 1700! Housley 1200! But neither could lead their clubs to a Cup.
Imo the greatest players actually tier themselves by their Cups. Maybe that’s partly why McDavid was so visibly angry in the room after going down 0-3 against the Panthers? He knows he needs the Cup to cement his legacy?
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Yes he does. That’s always been the metric
 
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