People owe Eric Tulsky an apology

[newsportsfan123]

Mark Jankowski:
6 goals in 7 games

Logan Stankoven:
4 points in 7 games

That doesn’t even include two first round picks and two third round picks.

I know I could be celebrating too early, but the crazy amount of hate that Tulsky got for actually rebounding on the bet (Rantanen) is insane. Now, if he packages those picks this summer and gets another piece this trade could age badly for Dallas if Rantanen doesn’t break out next season.

 

[Oscar The Grouch]

Wow, 4 points in 7 games!

 

[JediOrderPizza]

After you get over the shock and realize that Necas was on the block last summer and getting Stank+1sts is great value.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Tulsky gave a great example how to navigate uncertainty. Team is better now.

 

[895]

He salvaged a bad situation he put himself in very admirably.

However, I don't think the Hurricanes are a better team now than they were pre Rantan for Necas trade. So for a contending team that's not good.

But purely in terms of assets, they came out just fine.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Wow, 4 points in 7 games!

He actually has had some bad puck luck.

Saturday game, a goal should have been given to him and he’s lost two goals called back due to offside challenges.

Young man is playing on the checking Staal-Martinook line and has done a nice job!

 

[The Shadow]

Saw him in an interview and he seems like a really genuine nice guy. Can’t fault a guy for taking a big risk to make his team better. It just didn’t work out as planned but let’s look back in 5 years and he may have won this trade

 

[tarheelhockey]

However, I don't think the Hurricanes are a better team now than they were pre Rantan for Necas trade.

Becoming a better team immediately is not an easy option when moving a player who won’t re-sign.

The Rantanen trade busted, but it was a clever move to try and make the absolute most of the situation. Down in the 9th, Tulsky took a swing for the fence and ended up sending the ball to foul territory… next swing he got a double. It’s not ideal but it’s a decent bit of work.

 

[Coffee]

Okay, fine.

I’m sorry, Eric Tulsky. And I’m sorry to the Hurricanes franchise and fanbase.

I contributed to most of the laughing emote reacts during the big Rantanen wanting out thread

I really did not think he would have salvaged the situation as nice as he did.

 

[chaz4hockey]

He salvaged a bad situation he put himself in very admirably.

However, I don't think the Hurricanes are a better team now than they were pre Rantan for Necas trade. So for a contending team that's not good.

But purely in terms of assets, they came out just fine.

Playoffs results are yet to be determined but having watched Necas for years and now seeing Hall-Stanky I’d suggest they are better suited to playoffs than Necas was for the Canes.

Necas for all his skill often disappeared in the playoffs when space was limited and physical play enhanced. I’ve never seen him give one hard check in several years of playoff games.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

Wow, 4 points in 7 games!

Same as Rantannen with Dallas.

 

[bleedgreen]

He salvaged a bad situation he put himself in very admirably.

However, I don't think the Hurricanes are a better team now than they were pre Rantan for Necas trade. So for a contending team that's not good.

But purely in terms of assets, they came out just fine.

There’s a little more nuance to it. Necas obviously represents more pts than Stank. Stank played the system from the moment he showed up. This actually makes the Canes better, but it’s fair to always hold onto the potential pts lost. Necas always slowed down on the Canes and was easily neutralized in the playoffs. He never fit in the system, he created a lot of chances by himself but the team plays better as a team without either a Necas or Rants. They just had a huge win streak and are back on it after last night.

When you look at the whole trade tree it’s also easy to forget Hall. Hall has been great the whole time even if the pts aren’t overwhelming. The Canes don’t really care about production individually. It’s always about guys fitting the system, because there’s always plenty of offense when the system works. Between Hall and Stank (and separately Jankowsky) the Canes moved one Necas and now have three guys who are noticeable inside the system and the offense has been great.

 

[CTHabsfan]

Mark Jankowski:
6 goals in 7 games

30-years-old with 60 goals in his previous 395 games.

 

[Super Hans]

He's not getting an apology until Jiri Tlusty gets his from Rod Brind'Amour.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

I think both the trade for Rantanen, and the trade of Rantanen made sense. But why were they seemingly so dead set on trading Necas? Why wouldn't they give him an extended look at center?

Not sure what went on there, cause he seems like a player they could use...

 

[leafsfan5]

Jankowski is shooting a sustainable 75% since becoming a Hurricane

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

30-years-old with 60 goals in his previous 395 games.

He's on a crazy little heater, but the weird part about Jank is that he already had great analytics for a 4th liner while playing for one of the worst teams this year. Moving from Nashville to Carolina greatly improved his support cast, so he's naturally getting a lot more production, similar to guys like Noesen and Robinson before him.

 

[shello]

Asset wise, the Canes salvaged a sticky situation. But they never should have been in it from the start, easy to say with hindsight I guess. But for a contending team, they definitely regressed.

Not sure if a 30 year old 4th liner is going to be that much of a difference maker going forward

 

[Tie Domi Esquire]

Is this like when people were trying to give Kyle Dubas credit for trading Mrazek after signing him to a bad deal?

 

[bleedgreen]

I think both the trade for Rantanen, and the trade of Rantanen made sense. But why were they seemingly so dead set on trading Necas? Why wouldn't they give him an extended look at center?

Not sure what went on there, cause he seems like a player they could use...

I’m a big Necas fan so this was my frustration too. I saw both sides. Necas doesn’t take care of the puck well, he’s been horrible at it most of his career. Ironically he’s doing better this year but by the time we got here the bridge was burnt. He makes loose decisions with the puck and he’s not strong on it when he has to fight for it. He was never going to play center for RBA.

A lot happened this summer which is why they were dead set on trading him. He came off last season like it was over, he and his gf said goodbye to the area publicly, his father and Canes management got into a public spat with the Canes side essentially laughing at his Dad in a press conference (I thought that was petty and useless) and it seemed obvious he wanted out for the seemingly obvious reasons of not fitting in and wanting more responsibility. RBA wasn’t giving it to him. They traded him to CBus for the 4th pick but Necas didn’t want to long term extension there so it fell apart. He signed short term for not outrageous money so he could be easily moved. They gave him more playing time and he ran with it this year but the decisions had been made from both sides it seemed.

There’s an upside and downside to RBA. He’s a great coach, there’s no question. Adding skill to his team is tricky, it’s not easy for a player to be good for the system and also offensive minded all the time. Guentzel fit in great. Necas always struggled and Rants wasn’t interested.

Jankowsky is a good fourth line center for the Canes, no one is expecting him to provide any consistent offense. The heater is weird but fun.

 

[TheReelChuckFletcher]

Is this like when people were trying to give Kyle Dubas credit for trading Mrazek after signing him to a bad deal?

Not even close to the same thing. Dubas had to downgrade first round picks to trade Mrazek's contract away. The Canes netted Stankoven, two firsts, and two thirds out of a guy who didn't want to play for us.

 

[LexAsh]

On the one hand, Rantanen is wildly overrated, is an elite co-star and not worth his contract.

On the other hand, carolina still lacks the elite talent up front to be considered a threat.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Can't wait to see them lose in the 2nd round again.

 

[Esq]

Sorry, I guess.

 

[Empoleon8771]

After you get over the shock and realize that Necas was on the block last summer and getting Stank+1sts is great value.

I don't think Necas, Drury and a 2nd for Stankoven, 2 1sts and 2 3rds is all that great of value for Carolina, especially when they're a win-now team.

Just because Carolina didn't like Necas doesn't really make that value great.