Post-Game Talk: Pens vs Wild Loss: We miss you Flower

Honour Over Glory

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I feel like we romanticize the gen X era way too much. Make no mistake, that era sucked ass. Getting blown out every night, the anxiety of almost leaving town. We only look fondly on it because what it ultimately led to.
Gen X era gave a chance to a lot of players that wouldn't. For a moment a lot of those players got to live out their dream and they worked their ass off for coaches that shouldn't be coaches.

Now we get to see players that deserve a shot get shit all over, fans bitch about the players being the problem and are wrong, the players play like they don't believe in the coach.
 
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Khelandros

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So last night Getzoff and Bourque(?) kept talking about these Minnesota players in their "rookie" season. Does anyone know what this means? Have the Pens ever had any of these "rookies" on their roster? Do you think it would help?
 

heysmilinstrange

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So last night Getzoff and Bourque(?) kept talking about these Minnesota players in their "rookie" season. Does anyone know what this means? Have the Pens ever had any of these "rookies" on their roster? Do you think it would help?

You heard "rookie," but Sullivan heard "32-year-old bottom sixer with an injury history and hands of stone."
 

TooManyHumans

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We clearly aren't going to win anything with this team so they might as well try to pump up Crosby's numbers and get let him earn another ppg season.
 

BillyOcean

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I have no problems accepting losing. It's just the cycle of hockey and sports, but I think we're all just infuriated that the one thing that could change of all 70000 things that have changed hasnt yet.
 

EliteGoaltending

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That's my issue with the whole thing. When Geno struggled, they did absolutely nothing to get him going. But the moment Simple Sid does, his dumb ass needs all the help.
Always been like that with Sullivan. Some winger/s been looking awesome and killing it with Geno? Better take them off his line and never put them there again. 2nd line has been sucking *ss for two mouth straight? Better not change a thing. Everyone will blame Geno anyways. 🙃 Sid's line struggling? Better do something.
 
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EliteGoaltending

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People act like we had some insane youth that time. When really we had - Archibald, Wilson, Kuhnhackl, etc up as well. Youth. We have that now. But he's wanting none of that and when he does he uses them like shit.

Don't know how many more ways to say it's f***ing Sullivan that's the issue before we all lose our f***ing minds.
Pens historically being such an injury prone team played a part in all of this. Those guys, along with Rust and Sheary brought that young energy and speed on the table. But we all know Sullivan's history with playing/trusting young players.
 
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Big Friggin Dummy

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I feel like we romanticize the gen X era way too much. Make no mistake, that era sucked ass. Getting blown out every night, the anxiety of almost leaving town. We only look fondly on it because what it ultimately led to.
I think it's easier to give a shit about a team that's trying its best but sucks than it is to give a shit about a team intent on ruining the final decade of two generational talents. That's why a lot of us don't remember XGen Pens hockey as this era of pure misery. From 2019 onward, this Sullivan era hasn't been nearly as bad results-wise, but they've somehow managed to be so intensely unlikable through incompetence and arrogance that it boggles the mind.
 

Honour Over Glory

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We shouldn't care about one of the best people to ever grace the organization retiring, after watching him here for 13 seasons in a key role?
What the hell's wrong with you?
That poster is a twat. No clue who the f*** he is but he adds less value than Gurgleshits and that racist pos Ryder.

Lol, what does that even mean?
Captain, leader, has the voice to make a change just by talking to the right blokes in the company. Stop being daft.

Pens historically being such an injury prone team played a part in all of this. Those guys, along with Rust and Sheary brought that young energy and speed on the table. But we all know Sullivan's history with playing/trusting young players.
Yeah the list of young players wasn't massive. We might have a Rust and Sheary in that bunch or a Kuhn but Sullivan will quite literally never give them the rope he gave those players. So all anyone does is bitch and whine that Dubas killed this team when he really didn't.

Playing Gryz with Letang or Karls is quite literally sabotage at this point and they keep doing it. That's Dubas' fault? No. Usage comes down to coach. It's always been a Coach problem.
 

Big Friggin Dummy

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I don’t give a shit about Crosby’s numbers if he’s not going to use his position for the good of the franchise.
I've been saying for a while that the moment Sid says peep about Sullivan's coaching or system or whatever, Sullivan's fired on the spot. But man, the "That's not Sid's job!" stuff arrives like a tsunami.
 
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Sidney the Kidney

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I have no problems accepting losing. It's just the cycle of hockey and sports, but I think we're all just infuriated that the one thing that could change of all 70000 things that have changed hasnt yet.
This is literally my issue with this entire farce. Literally one move has to be made and I'll be fine with whatever they do otherwise. ONE f***ING MOVE.

This is also why I'm not looking forward to the inevitable rebuild. What's exciting about watching this idiot ruin a bunch of rookies for the next decade? It'll be the same roster as we have now where a bunch of bottom six scrubs litter the lineup, except just minus Sid and Geno.
 
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Turin

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I have no problems accepting losing. It's just the cycle of hockey and sports, but I think we're all just infuriated that the one thing that could change of all 70000 things that have changed hasnt yet.
Yea, people are pissed because he's being treated as if he's Crosby or Malkin. There's no reason for him to be a constant in two ownerships and 3 GMs.
 

Honour Over Glory

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Stacking the top line to ruin 3 other lines is ridiculous. Not even a dipshit like Bylsma ever did that. Sullivan doing that is another indication that he's lost the plot entirely.
 

AuroraBorealis

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We didn't realize how good we had it under Bylsma. We averaged 109 points per 82 games. Playoffs were a lock, no matter how bad injuries were.

Imagine being able to actually enjoy regular season games again, instead of just waiting for collapses.
 

ZorkEnchanter

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We didn't realize how good we had it under Bylsma. We averaged 109 points per 82 games. Playoffs were a lock, no matter how bad injuries were.

Imagine being able to actually enjoy regular season games again, instead of just waiting for collapses.
but what if you ... stay with me here... COLLAPSE every 2nd and 3rd period.

Sullivan is just playing 4D chess.
 

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