Post-Game Talk: Pens vs Leafs: Spanking, Canada's revenge

[Ryder71]

So any more easy teams on the schedule for the Pens to look good and keep Sully around?

Opponents are looking at the Pens as the ''easy'' team on the schedule.

 

[66-30-33]

Did I miss anything? I wasn't able to watch the game.

Yeah we won 7-0. Jarry shutout and Pus with 5 goals.

 

[BusinessGoose]

This forward group blows.

And defense

And goal

And coach

And owners

And GM

 

[SomeDude]

Letang with the Melichar hat trick tonight: -4, 10+ PIM, and at least one player thrown into his goalie.

 

[KareemTrustfund]

 

[Zirakzigil]

And defense

And goal

And coach

And owners

And GM

What did the owners do?

Dubas has been fine.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

Someone said in the game thread that on paper the Pens aren't really a bad team.

Yes, they are. Or at least not a good team.

Neither are the Steelers.

The complaints about the coaching of both teams have merit. But in the end, it is irrelevant. Because both teams simply don't have the talent.

The smart move would have been to start a rebuild. For both the Pens and Steelers.

Everyone here knew that going into the season. So your sanity will remain if you simply accept what deep down you knew.

 

[66-30-33]

Someone said in the game thread that on paper the Pens aren't really a bad team.

Yes, they are. Or at least not a good team.

Neither are the Steelers.

The complaints about the coaching of both teams have merit. But in the end, it is irrelevant. Because both teams simply don't have the talent.

The smart move would have been to start a rebuild. For both the Pens and Steelers.

Everyone here knew that going into the season. So your sanity will remain if you simply accept what deep down you knew.

I rather fire the coach and see what happens before I start rebuilding. But if we aint firing the coach, just rebuild.

 

[SomeDude]

What did the owners do?

Dubas has been fine.

The owners that gave a coach who hasn’t won anything in years an extension 2 years early?

Dubas has built a team with 0 depth every year of his professional career.

 

[molon labe]

29 games played, 29 points earned. 53 games remaining.

Pens now need to win 34/53 games remaining to hit that guesstimate playoff mark. 64%

Surely, trusting the process here will net those results. Or once we get Accairi back. That'll do it.

 

[Still Apps]

Out shot 'em and out hit 'em. We gonna need more scoring from our goalies.

 

[Zirakzigil]

The owners that gave a coach who hasn’t won anything in years an extension 2 years early?

Dubas has built a team with 0 depth every year of his professional career.

Lack of depth or coach usage? Dubas revamped the bottom 6 as best he could. Sully continues to sully however.

 

[Tender Rip]

Mr. Minus and his Robin were +\-0.
We had more shots!

Sully will be animated that we didn’t have the prerequisite sticktoitiveness.

Tender in Shanghai is dismayed that he is self banned from watching the team until Sully is fired, and politely asks Dubas to wake up and smell the coffee. It’s been 4 years too long. There’s no salvation with Sully, likely none without him either, but surely none with him.
Not a single young player or “maybe”talent has improved under him since Guentzel. When we’re definitely done, Sully is the last coach we should want near this place.

 

[Pancakes]

Someone said in the game thread that on paper the Pens aren't really a bad team.

Yes, they are. Or at least not a good team.

Neither are the Steelers.

The complaints about the coaching of both teams have merit. But in the end, it is irrelevant. Because both teams simply don't have the talent.

The smart move would have been to start a rebuild. For both the Pens and Steelers.

Everyone here knew that going into the season. So your sanity will remain if you simply accept what deep down you knew.

I'd fire the coach first and see if it helps. No reason not to.

That said, if the Pens do opt to rebuild...how do you even do that? They have no tradeable contracts, and unless Crosby/Letang/Malkin want out, those three might be good enough to keep them relevant enough to not get top picks.

Jake is the only prime trade piece they have, but I'm not sure he'd bring the haul back that everyone wants. But if they're gonna rebuild, they might as well start with him.

 

[SomeDude]

Lack of depth or coach usage? Dubas revamped the bottom 6 as best he could. Sully continues to sully however.

We had exactly 6 top six capable players in the entire organization going into the season. You cannot win with 0 offensive ability in your bottom 6.

If that’s what Sully wanted Dubas should have fired him, overruled him, or just not taken the job. He is only here because FSG threw enough money at him to change his mind of taking a break.

 

[Turin]

Any rebuild talk before Sullivan/Reirden are fired remains nonsense.

 

[SomeDude]

Any rebuild talk before Sullivan/Reirden remains nonsense.

I can’t think of better coaches to lead a tank though. If you want high picks, they’re the men for the very poorly done job.

 

[Jaded-Fan]

I'd fire the coach first and see if it helps. No reason not to.

That said, if the Pens do opt to rebuild...how do you even do that? They have no tradeable contracts, and unless Crosby/Letang/Malkin want out, those three might be good enough to keep them relevant enough to not get top picks.

Jake is the only prime trade piece they have, but I'm not sure he'd bring the haul back that everyone wants. But if they're gonna rebuild, they might as well start with him.

They are rebuilding.

Soon.

The only question is when. Now? This off-season? Next? They certainly aren't a legit cup contender and there is no trade or new coach that will make them one.

The only thing that they can control is when the rebuild starts. The longer that they wait, the longer until they are legitimately good again.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Lack of depth or coach usage? Dubas revamped the bottom 6 as best he could. Sully continues to sully however.

Even if you give dubas the benefit of the doubt regarding team composition and doing the best he could...

... This shit is a results driven game, and the team he put together f***ing sucks

None of the "hope they rebound" style players have hit. At all.

EK even stumbling.

Dubas gets to fall on the sword until some scrap ass player he signs does jack all

 

[Zirakzigil]

Any rebuild talk before Sullivan/Reirden remains nonsense.

Reebuild isnt happening until the core retires. New ownership didnt spend 100s of millions to just blow this up. Sid and Co will be allowed to ride into the sunset and then the scorched earth approach will happen. This the way.

 

[vodeni]

I think Stegy hit the nail on the head, its Nietto and Acciari who we are missing and why Pens suck now

 

[BeatenLikeRentedMule]

Someone said in the game thread that on paper the Pens aren't really a bad team.

Yes, they are. Or at least not a good team.

Neither are the Steelers.

The complaints about the coaching of both teams have merit. But in the end, it is irrelevant. Because both teams simply don't have the talent.

The smart move would have been to start a rebuild. For both the Pens and Steelers.

Everyone here knew that going into the season. So your sanity will remain if you simply accept what deep down you knew.

There should have when a rebuild two summers ago. Now it's just crash and burn time.

 

[canadianguy77]

Kris lost the game before it ever really started. Should have let him go and signed a guy like Toews.

 

[AlphaMikeFoxtrots]

Bye, Dads, safe travels home!

I wish this was surprising, but would it be hilarious if Toronto returned the favor of the Babcock firing?

Yes.

Will we get that lucky?

Survey says no.

 

[Turin]

They are rebuilding.

Soon.

The only question is when. Now? This off-season? Next? They certainly aren't a legit cup contender and there is no trade or new coach that will make them one.

The only thing that they can control is when the rebuild starts. The longer that they wait, the longer until they are legitimately good again.

They could easily be a playoff team with a change behind the bench/tweaks. A Cup was always going to be a hail mary once Sid and Geno hit their mid 30's, but they're not trading them, so you might as well try.