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GDT: Pens vs Devils

Gurglesons said:
Dewar had a decent season with Minnesota, but let's not pretend that this is anything beyond a flash in a pan.
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Oh, absolutely small size. But in terms of style of what you're looking for out of a bottom six player, his little run is closer to what I personally think would work.

Whether it's him or someone like Poulin or someone else, that's what you should want over the course of 82 games - forecheck, disruptive, and then get enough goals to not be a black hole of suck.
 
DesertedPenguin said:
Oh, absolutely small size. But in terms of style of what you're looking for out of a bottom six player, his little run is closer to what I personally think would work.

Whether it's him or someone like Poulin or someone else, that's what you should want over the course of 82 games - forecheck, disruptive, and then get enough goals to not be a black hole of suck.
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He looks exactly like Matt Nieto out there.
 
DesertedPenguin said:
Oh, absolutely small size. But in terms of style of what you're looking for out of a bottom six player, his little run is closer to what I personally think would work.

Whether it's him or someone like Poulin or someone else, that's what you should want over the course of 82 games - forecheck, disruptive, and then get enough goals to not be a black hole of suck.
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Absolutely. I liked Dewar in Minnesota. Did not follow him much in Toronto but Dewar and Duhaime were a nice duo in Minny, and it seems he and Lizotte are doing similar things in Pit. Obviously, we should have dealt Acciari at the deadline but we did not for whatever reason. I would like to see someone else playing with Dewar and Lizotte next season as the FOURTH line, not the current third line. I think both Hallander and A. Hayes have the skill set to play that role with those two guys. And hey, maybe even add a modicum of additional offense to the group.

Anyway, we can't be too upset that the plans for the first round seem to be altering when the winning streak is largely because of the infusion of new players, the subtraction of players who were overdue to leave and the renaissance of the goaltender who has limited to no trade value.

This Eastern Conference is so wide open right now, we might as well take a run at it. Meanwhile, keep losing NYR! Let's go Blue Jackets tonight!

The fact that Kolyachonok is playing with Letang and they don't suck together; the fact Graves is back in the lineup and he and Timmins do not suck together; the fact that Dewar and Heinen are contributing...all of those things are positives moving forward.

I personally would like to see us use those four call-ups before the end of the regular season on some prospects, but otherwise no complaints. Other than the obvious question: where in the blue hell was this type of performance earlier this season? Why must we always spot teams X number of points every year, sink to the nether regions of the overall standings prior to the deadline, dump players and then go on a streak that will end in us missing out only because of how piss-poor the start was?

It's annoying.
 
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Jag68Sid87 said:
Absolutely. I liked Dewar in Minnesota. Did not follow him much in Toronto but Dewar and Duhaime were a nice duo in Minny, and it seems he and Lizotte are doing similar things in Pit. Obviously, we should have dealt Acciari at the deadline but we did not for whatever reason. I would like to see someone else playing with Dewar and Lizotte next season as the FOURTH line, not the current third line. I think both Hallander and A. Hayes have the skill set to play that role with those two guys. And hey, maybe even add a modicum of additional offense to the group.

Anyway, we can't be too upset that the plans for the first round seem to be altering when the winning streak is largely because of the infusion of new players, the subtraction of players who were overdue to leave and the renaissance of the goaltender who has limited to no trade value.

This Eastern Conference is so wide open right now, we might as well take a run at it. Meanwhile, keep losing NYR! Let's go Blue Jackets tonight!

The fact that Kolyachonok is playing with Letang and they don't suck together; the fact Graves is back in the lineup and he and Timmins do not suck together; the fact that Dewar and Heinen are contributing...all of those things are positives moving forward.

I personally would like to see us use those four call-ups before the end of the regular season on some prospects, but otherwise no complaints. Other than the obvious question: where in the blue hell was this type of performance earlier this season? Why must we always spot teams X number of points every year, sink to the nether regions of the overall standings prior to the deadline, dump players and then go on a streak that will end in us missing out only because of how piss-poor the start was?

It's annoying.
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Graves sucked total ass today lol.
 
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If this team somehow makes the playoffs, give Sid the Hart. Far more deserving than Draisaitl putting up 8 billion points with McDavid on his wing
 
Gurglesons said:
Graves sucked total ass today lol.
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I don't doubt. He is never going to look good under this coach playing this style, that much is obvious. And he would not be playing over the journeyman Shea if the latter were not injured.

My point is, Graves not playing at all does nothing for that asset. He will never be able to look great a la Jarry, even in spurts, but he has to play if we have any chance of moving him.
 
Tasty Biscuits said:
As it is written.

Mid-round pick here we come.
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That's ok. There really aren't any sure fire generational players from what I see currently. The Pens have allot of chances at hitting with their vast numbers of picks. They just to need to draft players with at least one dominant characteristic (Speed, Shot, Physicality/Size, Playmaking). It's really not rocket surgery.
 
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PamBallam said:
If this team somehow makes the playoffs, give Sid the Hart. Far more deserving than Draisaitl putting up 8 billion points with McDavid on his wing
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Well, first of all, it is Draisaitl who plays on McDavid's wing when the coach puts them together, but they usually start every game on different lines.

Secondly, Draisaitl should be the runaway winner for the Hart this season. I don't see anyone close.
 
Jag68Sid87 said:
Well, first of all, it is Draisaitl who plays on McDavid's wing when the coach puts them together, but they usually start every game on different lines.

Secondly, Draisaitl should be the runaway winner for the Hart this season. I don't see anyone close.
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Agreed.

You could make a case for McKinnon but I'd lean Draisaitl.

Hellebuyck was a convo but I dont think he is doing enough.

Quinn Hughes also an outside chance but Vancouver free falling a tad has hurt his chances but his on/off numbers are insane
 
AuroraBorealis said:
Let's not overcomplicate this. A realistic bar is like 90 points.
88 if they're very lucky. 92 if they're not.

Their max is 92 atm.
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If we win 13 more in a row we'll tie an NHL record for 17 consecutive wins which the '93 penguins set.. I don't see that happening.

To get to 88 points they'd have to go 11-2, and I don't see that happening either.
 
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This is the problem with Sullivan in a nutshell: he’s trying to make every player into an all around two-way threat, which would be nice, but most players already have strengths and weaknesses by the time they get to the NHL …he insists on them doing things in a different way though, so he’s not playing them to their strengths and he gets them thinking too much…not everyone is going to be Patrice Bergeron lol…play them to their damn strengths…

Here’s Sullivan at the presser when asked about Tomasino: he praises his offensive instincts and finishing ability, particularly off the rush, but then says, “but where the coaching staff is trying to challenge Phil is to develop a grind game.” Just stop lol…why can’t he just be happy he scores and play him with other players who can do the grinding? The line can be balanced, but not every player is going to overcome his warts…just fire the coach already! I fear him getting his hands on all of our prospects in Wilkes lol
 
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Andy99 said:
This is the problem with Sullivan in a nutshell: he’s trying to make every player into an all around two-way threat, which would be nice, but most players already have strengths and weaknesses by the time they get to the NHL …he insists on them doing things in a different way though, so he’s not playing them to their strengths and he gets them thinking too much…not everyone is going to be Patrice Bergeron lol…play them to their damn strengths…

Here’s Sullivan at the presser when asked about Tomasino: he praises his offensive instincts and finishing ability, particularly off the rush, but then says, “but where the coaching staff is trying to challenge Phil is to develop a grind game.” Just stop lol…why can’t he just be happy he scores and play him with other players who can do the grinding? The line can be balanced, but not every player is going to overcome his warts…just fire the coach already! I fear him getting his hands on all of our prospects in Wilkes lol
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Gotta give Kyle credit, his pick ups like Tomasino, Timmins and Dewar look pretty good for a 4th and 5th rounder. Not that I want them to win at this point, but he extracted pretty good value there. Also, Tomasino has SIX GWG's out of his 10 on the season.
 
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