Confirmed with Link: Pens trade Eller to Washington
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SomeDude
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At some point Sully is going to go to Dubas and say "Just get me bodies so I can scratch the Finns again"
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SomeDude
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Also, he made the Yager/Rutger deal like 2 months before the season. So, you're thinking that Dubas thought this year wasn't going to be this bad heading into it and yet he still didn't think maybe he should try firing the coach before re-routing his entire plan and map for the future?
The guy has no plan.
If he was worried about that then he should have fired the coach first lol
He had one big game against the Habs at the beginning of the season and has been invisible since. So yes, there definitely is.
orby
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Eller is a fine depth player at this point but that's pretty much it. They got market value for him.
wheelz87
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Try to help me understand.. this is a guy we could have dealt at the deadline for this package. We are admitting defeat a month into the season. And we have who to take his minutes the remainder of the year? We have which Wilkes barre center banging on the door for ice time? (Pono?? Poulin at freakin center??). You trade him at the deadline, you need to fill 15 games with whatever. Fine. I.. don’t understand this.
AuroraBorealis
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I think he just decided on his plan.
I'm pretty sure he wants to keep Sullivan to handle development of the prospects. Not that I agree with that.
He thinks really highly of him.
Freeptop
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Many of us have been wanting the Pens to make space for prospects to play in the NHL. Eller was the vet that they could move now.
Maybe they could have gotten more for Eller if they'd waited, but that's certainly no guarantee. In the meantime, they've gotten something for him, guaranteed, and they've made room in the roster for at least one prospect to play for at least a few games.
Is this a great move? No, but it's not a bad one either. I mean, the players have already made it clear that they're going nowhere this year, so I see no problem with moving out older players for picks. 2nd vs 3rd rounder isn't all that different in terms of quality, and at least this wasn't Tarnstrom at peak value for Jani Rita and Cory Cross (not that Tarnstrom had much value, even at peak, but draft picks would have had a better chance of turning into something useful than Rita and Cross!)
Mostly, I'm just hoping that this is a sign that the Pens are finally accepting reality and starting a rebuild for real. At least this way, we get a chance to see some more prospects play.
Now go unload more veteran players, and get some more prospects up here. They'll still lose, but at least the prospects are going to try.
Maybe they could have gotten more for Eller if they'd waited, but that's certainly no guarantee. In the meantime, they've gotten something for him, guaranteed, and they've made room in the roster for at least one prospect to play for at least a few games.
Is this a great move? No, but it's not a bad one either. I mean, the players have already made it clear that they're going nowhere this year, so I see no problem with moving out older players for picks. 2nd vs 3rd rounder isn't all that different in terms of quality, and at least this wasn't Tarnstrom at peak value for Jani Rita and Cory Cross (not that Tarnstrom had much value, even at peak, but draft picks would have had a better chance of turning into something useful than Rita and Cross!)
Mostly, I'm just hoping that this is a sign that the Pens are finally accepting reality and starting a rebuild for real. At least this way, we get a chance to see some more prospects play.
Now go unload more veteran players, and get some more prospects up here. They'll still lose, but at least the prospects are going to try.
Empoleon8771
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I do wonder if Eller gave the Penguins some sort of indication that he wanted to be moved. He seems like an ultra competitive leader type and I feel like the general apathy this team has wasn't sitting well with him. I figure he still wants to win and this team definitely made him realize it wasn't going to happen here.
AuroraBorealis
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Almost there mentally, yes. But too much cap is blocked now to properly execute scorched earth this year. If I was GM I'd still do as much as possible.
But what I'm saying is this isn't a clean rebuild year, like the Sharks had last season or w/e. You can't max it. You can't weaponize as much cap as you'd like to, to get a bevvy of 2025 or 2026 picks.
So that affects the timeline for resurgence. That's why I'd aim for picks with that timeline in mind.
Could have also deteriorated in value. 1 assist in the last 10. Could have gotten injured.
It's possible he requested a trade too.
Sike Mullivan
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Possibly. It seemed like he cared a lot last year, and watching the team backslide into even worse mediocrity this year can't have sat well with him.
You just gave me a mental image of Mike Sullivan at 80 years old giving his insight on things in the Pens press box just like Eddie Johnston still does.
And I'm mad at you for it lmao
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I don’t know how as a GM you can watch this this team and think “Yeah Eller has gotta be the first one gone”.
Empoleon8771
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This was also a quote from him earlier today. I wouldn't claim that he 100% asked for a move but it sure as hell wouldn't surprise me if he basically just said "get me out of here".
DesertedPenguin
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Could explain making the move now, that's for sure.
Empoleon8771
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What's also interesting to read is that Jesse said the Penguins have been trying to move him for a while now and only got this level of return recently:
Aligns with the theory that they shopped him last year and got nothing worthwhile for him.
Aligns with the theory that they shopped him last year and got nothing worthwhile for him.
Snooki Stackhouse
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Seems like he could've squeezed more by being patient but he probably wants the roster spot to try to get an idea on some of these young guys so whatever.
Could be.
I don't think he necessarily has to ask out for the Pens to want to move him either though. They suck, he's old. There's players in WBS that could take his spot. It could be as simple as that.
Turin
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Poulin has been playing C if I understand right, and has been doing well. Ponomarev hopefully stops getting injured and then he'll probably be called up later in season.
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Kyle getting max returns for Guentzel and Eller.
Maybe the Caps threw in a new prescription for Lens Crafters dweeb glasses.
Maybe the Caps threw in a new prescription for Lens Crafters dweeb glasses.
Empoleon8771
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Poulin's been playing RW in WBS due to Broz and Ponomarev playing C. Not that Poulin can't play C but he's not really been playing it recently.
SomeDude
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We can be a bottom 3 team this year. We are that bad. High cap hits do not correlate with ability. Tristan Jarry, Ryan Graves, Michael Bunting, etc are not going to keep this team from the bottom. Sid isn't either unless we light a fire by firing the coach which isn't going to happen.
Yeah the nice thing about the Pens at this point is Dubas and Sullivan might not be able to f*** this up. The Pens/Sullivan might just be bad enough to get a lottery pick even if they don't make any moves lol.
So those that are desperate to tank...you may get your wish even though the Pens aren't blowing it up.
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