Salary Cap: Pens Summer Salary Thread: We Hayes Dubas's offseason moves so far

[Sidney the Kidney]

We don't get nervous about Sid not signing because it doesn't matter, to be brutally honest. Either he wants to retire a Penguin knowing the team's in for some real bleak years, or he wants to go elsewhere for a chance to actually compete. /shrug

Sid's just trying to figure out the best way to tell Geno and Tanger that he's bailing this sinking ship after convincing both guys to sign retirement deals with the Penguins.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Penguins have lost another youth prospect.

St Ivany turned 25 today and no longer considered a youth (UN definition is 15-24)

 

[KrisLetAngry]

Sid's just trying to figure out the best way to tell Geno and Tanger that he's bailing this sinking ship after convincing both guys to sign retirement deals with the Penguins.

I think Letang would be able to go elsewhere quite easily. Even Malkin.

They would have to open up the teams they would be interested In but If Crosby did leave I could see both leave at the deadline or off season.

 

[GilbertSeinfeld]

Penguins have lost another youth prospect.

St Ivany turned 25 today and no longer considered a youth (UN definition is 15-24)

He can stay on his parents insurance for another year, though.

 

[Andy99]

Penguins have lost another youth prospect.

St Ivany turned 25 today and no longer considered a youth (UN definition is 15-24)

Sullivan has created a new definition: 25-35 lol

 

[eXile3]

I mean with very rare exceptions, at 25 you’re probably the player you’re going to be. Development has probably stopped.

The player can have more success through better usage and/or environment but by their mid 20s it’s hard to imagine them getting significantly better skill wise.

 

[SEALBound]

Sid's just trying to figure out the best way to tell Geno and Tanger that he's bailing this sinking ship after convincing both guys to sign retirement deals with the Penguins.

"They no want me"

or

"I want to win and its just that...well...you guys suck"

or

"It's not you, it's me. I want to win"

I think he resigns but what I can't wrap my mind around is the $10mil/yr salary/caphit. You've gone out of your way your entire career to take a bit less to help the team and you're the highest paid player ever and you have endorsements up the wazoo and it's NOW that you want a bit more? Just odd.

 

[Tom Hanks]

Looks like a Graves trade is imminent

https://x.com/i/web/status/1815449281379143952

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

That says "top four defenseman" though. Not "third pairing defenseman being paid like a top four."

I wonder if Graves will be as hated as JJ by this time next season? Probably not. Bad/disappointing as Graves has no doubt been... there were legitimately times where I wondered if I could have gotten out there and done a better job than JJ. And I'm old. And haven't played in a long time. And was a forward.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Looks like a Graves trade is imminent

https://x.com/i/web/status/1815449281379143952

Man I was getting all excited until I read the actual damn tweet...

 

[MayorofWBS]

That says "top four defenseman" though. Not "third pairing defenseman being paid like a top four."

I wonder if Graves will be as hated as JJ by this time next season? Probably not. Bad/disappointing as Graves has no doubt been... there were legitimately times where I wondered if I could have gotten out there and done a better job than JJ. And I'm old. And haven't played in a long time. And was a forward.

This never stopped JR before (I know, I know....he isn't the Nuck's GM).

All we can hope for is a GM to fall in love with size.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

As much as I hate Sullivan and want to agree out of spite for him, I'm not sure that's entirely true. Yager likes to shoot and Crosby wants the puck, yes, but Crosby also likes making plays. He lost his trigger man in Jake so tell Yager "Hey, work with Sid and shoot what he gives you." wouldn't be the worst direction.

Starting Yager at wing to work him into the NHL and then transitioning him to center when appropriate isn't the worst option. That's the Jordan Staal route and it worked out well. Granted, the team's makeup was slightly different but still.

Yager-Sid-Rust
Bunting-Malkin-Rakell
DOC-Hayes-Beauvillier
Poulin-Lizotte-Puljujarvi

Would be my "preferred" lineup assuming two things: 1. Hayes is a part of the roster. 2. The "new" guys are prioritized over the "old" guys. Meaning, if push comes to shove, Acciari is a HS over Lizotte.

Sullivan literally told Sprong what I said. Sullivan is a f***ing moron. These are facts.

 

[SEALBound]

Man I was getting all excited until I read the actual damn tweet...

All in favor of a ban, say "aye"

 

[The Old Master]

Sid's just trying to figure out the best way to tell Geno and Tanger that he's bailing this sinking ship after convincing both guys to sign retirement deals with the Penguins.

if sid goes so will the other two. imo

 

[KrisLetAngry]

"They no want me"

or

"I want to win and its just that...well...you guys suck"

or

"It's not you, it's me. I want to win"

I think he resigns but what I can't wrap my mind around is the $10mil/yr salary/caphit. You've gone out of your way your entire career to take a bit less to help the team and you're the highest paid player ever and you have endorsements up the wazoo and it's NOW that you want a bit more? Just odd.

Discount when you can win. No discount when it's over.

Crosby is like I might as well make bank now.

 

[BlindWillyMcHurt]

As someone who has always been adamantly opposed to these guys retiring anywhere but Pittsburgh I have to admit that it would be shocking and frankly a little funny (but only temporarily) if this team's utter incompetence, mismanagement, arrogance and inexplicable need to stick with the same doof coach for going on ten years of failure somehow beat out Sid's over the top superstition and want to be a one-team legacy kind of player. Would be a kind of impressive catastrophic failure of sorts, you know?

That said... he's just waiting for 08/07 -- it's Crosby we're talking about, here.

 

[Gurglesons]

I'd trade Marcus Pettersson for Hoglander and a pick and then sign Kylington.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Sid's just trying to figure out the best way to tell Geno and Tanger that he's bailing this sinking ship after convincing both guys to sign retirement deals with the Penguins.

That would legit be hilarious tbh.

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

I think he’s waiting for 08/07 and the extension is already signed. There was a lot of speculation until that report that came out two weeks ago that a deal is close and it should be 3x$10. Since then, it’s been radio silence. If there was even a whiff that that report wasn’t true and he was considering not re-signing, no doubt the Canadian media would be all over it.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

That would legit be hilarious tbh.

Geno/Tanger: "Hey Sid, we're in this for the long haul, right? Besties until the end? Sid ...?"

Crosby:

 

[K Fleur]

That says "top four defenseman" though. Not "third pairing defenseman being paid like a top four."

I wonder if Graves will be as hated as JJ by this time next season? Probably not. Bad/disappointing as Graves has no doubt been... there were legitimately times where I wondered if I could have gotten out there and done a better job than JJ. And I'm old. And haven't played in a long time. And was a forward.

Nah everybody knew JJ was cooked before he even played a game here.

Everybody except @Empoleon8771

 

[Andy99]

Here’s Kan Dingerski’s Metro division predictions lol…

Metro Division Predictions​

Projecting more parity in the division this season, with higher totals for most teams except the top.

1. New York Rangers: 106points
2. New Jersey Devils: 101 points
3. Carolina Hurricanes: 95 points
4. Washington Capitals: 92 points.
5. Philadelphia Flyers: 89 points
6. Pittsburgh Penguins: 86 points
7. New York Islanders: 86 points
8. Columbus Blue Jackets: 70 points.

The Way Too Early Penguins, Metro Division Predictions

After a week of examining the changes in attitude and latitude of the Pittsburgh Penguins’ top rivals in the Metro Division, the trajectory of the 2024-25 NHL season is becoming a little bit clearer. The NHL has never been as competitive, and games in October have never been so important. Fewer...

pittsburghhockeynow.com

 

[Andy99]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1815167303991894450

 

[Gurglesons]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1815167303991894450

Who is this guy?

Here’s Kan Dingerski’s Metro division predictions lol…

Metro Division Predictions​

Projecting more parity in the division this season, with higher totals for most teams except the top.

1. New York Rangers: 106points
2. New Jersey Devils: 101 points
3. Carolina Hurricanes: 95 points
4. Washington Capitals: 92 points.
5. Philadelphia Flyers: 89 points
6. Pittsburgh Penguins: 86 points
7. New York Islanders: 86 points
8. Columbus Blue Jackets: 70 points.

The Way Too Early Penguins, Metro Division Predictions

After a week of examining the changes in attitude and latitude of the Pittsburgh Penguins’ top rivals in the Metro Division, the trajectory of the 2024-25 NHL season is becoming a little bit clearer. The NHL has never been as competitive, and games in October have never been so important. Fewer...

pittsburghhockeynow.com

Islanders losing 8 points? Why?

 

[Andy99]

Who is this guy?



Islanders losing 8 points? Why?

I think he’s an old failed AHL goalie…if you’re asking me if he knows anything, who knows? Lol