Salary Cap: Pens Summer Salary Thread: We Hayes Dubas's offseason moves so far

[Zirakzigil]

Well, if this is true we get pick #38 in the 2nd round!

Barring a major addition or PP clicking at a top 10 pace we'll finish in the bottom 8.

This is a bad roster and the good players are ancient.

Pens are competing this year and I do think the second years of Karlsson and Graves will be better. Hayes was not someone I wanted but the pick and a lower end center is not a killer. Plus he can be moved at the TDL. St Ivany has to be good this year. A healthy Rakell, a full year with Bunting and Letang healthy and Jarry playing up to his potential and Pens are not that bad here. Pens prospects are much better in both depth and development so when the full blown transition kicks in, Pens have a decent balanced roster to work with.

as long as sully stays, don't get your hopes up.

Competing to be the bottom feeders of the division maybe. Which in the long run is a good thing.

This roster doesn’t deserve 1/10 of the optimism in this post.

The personnel is more the issue. You can't ice a team where your best players are nearly 40 years old and expect anything but a long season. If Sid and Geno couldn't get it done a couple years back, they're not gonna do it being a couple years older as well as a couple years removed from the post season.


I'm optimistic we'll pick higher in the draft. That's about it.

Starting to hate "he can be moved at the TDL" as much as "PK specialist" or "vet leadership" tbh.

Just read Dubass made a play to sign Tarasenko .
This guy never learns.

When Harkins goes and pots a hatty in game one, I’m gonna just hang my head and have a looong cry.

It’s up there with the most annoying cliches this site falls in love with and repeats uncritically for sure, but have you als I considered it’s a horrible coping mechanism for dudes pushing their mid 30s?

What if it's a PK specialist with veteran leadership that can be moved at the TDL?

Sometimes I look at sid and geno and think damn they look old

Then I remember I'm a few years older than them

And look in the mirror... And come here to post angry comments

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He looks like a normal 37 to me, outside of more gray than usual at that age.
Malkin maybe looks 40.

If we're looking at Pens who look beat up for their years, Pettersson stands out. That's a rough 28. Those kinda guys tend to stabilize around 35+ though lol.

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[SEALBound]

Please trade Eller and Acciari and waive Nieto.

 

[TheGoldenJet]

I agree with the comment that claims there will be no hope for positive changes this season without a change at the head coach position.

 

[66-30-33]

Please trade Eller and Acciari and waive Nieto.

 

[BusinessGoose]

Aaand then?

 

[66-30-33]

Aaand then?

I refuse to play your chinese food mind games!

 

[SEALBound]

Aaand then?

And then Graves, Jarry, Pettersson, Hayes, Rakell, Rust, Karlsson...Sullivan...

 

[66-30-33]

And then Graves, Jarry, Pettersson, Hayes, Rakell, Rust, Karlsson...Sullivan...

And then?

 

[Pancakes]

The sad thing about the direction that Dubas chose is even though I do think it's what's best for the team in the long run it also gives Sullivan immunity. Now that the Pens are rebuilding in all but name there is going to be zero pressure on Sullivan to perform. Dubas clearly doesn't expect anything from this team so there will be no expectations on Sullivan either. If the Pens suck it will be "it's not Sullivan's fault we just didn't give him a good enough roster" and if they're good it will be "see this is why we kept Sully look what a great coach we have".

 

[SomeDude]

On the bright side, Sully’s stubborn overrated ass is the perfect tank commander for us to suck. He’ll eventually get tired of losing as it will be beneath a coach of his stature and will go somewhere else after this current contract to prove he’s a fraud.

 

[DesertedPenguin]

Did not expect to see this included in the Athletic's list of Top 10 contracts signed in free agency.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5617349/2024/07/05/nhl-free-agency-ranking-best-contracts/

10. Anthony Beauvillier, Pittsburgh Penguins​

Contract: $1.25 million x one year

I’m not the biggest Anthony Beauvillier fan, but at a dirt cheap $1.25 million cap hit, it’s easy to see the upside case. Beauvillier struggled last season as he split time between Vancouver, Chicago and Nashville but the five years before that, he’s produced at a 19 goals and 39 points per 82 games pace. That includes scoring 18 goals and 40 points just a year ago in 2022-23.

Beauvillier’s long-term track record is that of a quality third-line winger and given that he only turned 27 a month ago, there’s a high probability last season was just a down year in a trade-filled season rather than a sign of precipitous decline. He’s an excellent skater, defensively responsible and has the scoring touch to produce at a middle-six rate. Beauvillier is streaky — he’ll go on heaters where he flashes top-six potential but also long stretches where he goes cold production wise and doesn’t accomplish much else.


The Penguins are starved of quality top-nine wingers which makes this a savvy bet. He should improve the Penguins’ speed, secondary scoring and could get looks further up the lineup depending on how he fits in — that’s good value for $1.25 million, especially when inferior, fourth-line quality players like Sam Lafferty and Ryan Lomberg both commanded $2 million x two years contracts on July 1.

 

[Turin]

Did not expect to see this included in the Athletic's list of Top 10 contracts signed in free agency.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5617349/2024/07/05/nhl-free-agency-ranking-best-contracts/

He was awesome his first few years in the league. If he bounces back he’s worth like 4.5 mill.

 

[Gurglesons]

Did not expect to see this included in the Athletic's list of Top 10 contracts signed in free agency.

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5617349/2024/07/05/nhl-free-agency-ranking-best-contracts/

Interesting.

Calling Ryan Lomberg inferior though. I cast a hex on that man.

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

The sad thing about the direction that Dubas chose is even though I do think it's what's best for the team in the long run it also gives Sullivan immunity. Now that the Pens are rebuilding in all but name there is going to be zero pressure on Sullivan to perform. Dubas clearly doesn't expect anything from this team so there will be no expectations on Sullivan either. If the Pens suck it will be "it's not Sullivan's fault we just didn't give him a good enough roster" and if they're good it will be "see this is why we kept Sully look what a great coach we have".

I'm not really worried about your above scenario happening because that's how the team's been operating for nearly a decade at this point. But like @SomeDude said; I think eventually Sullivan just gets annoyed with coaching a bottom feeder and walks away after this current deal is up.

 

[Ryder71]

Please trade Eller and Acciari and waive Nieto.

Nieto is on LTIR, likely won't play again.

On the bright side, Sully’s stubborn overrated ass is the perfect tank commander for us to suck.

Exactly! And that's what we should all be striving towards.

#EmbraceTheSuck

 

[Gurglesons]

I'm not really worried about your above scenario happening because that's how the team's been operating for nearly a decade at this point. But like @SomeDude said; I think eventually Sullivan just gets annoyed with coaching a bottom feeder and walks away after this current deal is up.

I'm worried that Kevin Hayes is going to find his mojo again and we are going to miss the playoffs by a point again lol.

 

[HandshakeLine]

On the bright side, Sully’s stubborn overrated ass is the perfect tank commander for us to suck. He’ll eventually get tired of losing as it will be beneath a coach of his stature and will go somewhere else after this current contract to prove he’s a fraud.

Hoorah, only a brief 3 season wait.

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

On the bright side, Sully’s stubborn overrated ass is the perfect tank commander for us to suck. He’ll eventually get tired of losing as it will be beneath a coach of his stature and will go somewhere else after this current contract to prove he’s a fraud.

Truly I don’t get why, if he’s this great and revered coach, he doesn’t leave and go somewhere he can win more? Crosby, Malkin and Letang I get why they would stay because of the whole ‘one team’ legacy thing and all that but Sullivan isn’t a player and doesn’t have that going for him.

 

[SomeDude]

Hoorah, only a brief 3 season wait.

Then only 5 more seasons of David Quinn hockey after that.

 

[eXile3]

Uhhh some of those comments by Pat Brisson are a little concerning. He’s at the very least putting pressure on the organization to be more competitive.

 

[BrookswasHere44]

Uhhh some of those comments by Pat Brisson are a little concerning. He’s at the very least putting pressure on the organization to be more competitive.

Which comments?

 

[Randy Butternubs]

Which comments?

 

[Ulf5]

Which comments?

Brisson supposedly did an interview with Martin McGuire on Montreal radio prior to the draft. Believe there's a link to the interview on reddit but it's in French.

Sidney Crosby: Pat Brisson opens the door to a Pittsburgh departure

Sidney Crosby is 36 years old. He’s still one of the NHL’s most productive players, having racked up 94 points (42 goals) last season in Pittsburgh . The interesting thing about the Penguins captain is that he’ll be as free as a bird next summer if he can’t agree on the terms of a new contract...

www.yardbarker.com

 

[ThosePuckingPenguins]

Uhhh some of those comments by Pat Brisson are a little concerning. He’s at the very least putting pressure on the organization to be more competitive.

Stemming from this article. Penguins' Sidney Crosby Extension In Limbo: 'It Has To Make Sense'

I don’t think those quotes are real. That article was written on June 29th. If those quotes were real, they would’ve been picked up by every single hockey outlet in America and Canada. Also, Sid wants this entire thing to be as private as possible. I don’t see his agent going against that.

 

[eXile3]

Which comments?

“He is a very loyal person and he has one year left on his current contract. However, you have to ask the tough questions with missing the past two postseasons, along with the scarce prospect pool, a decision must be taken soon and we need to talk about the future in July.”​

Sidney Crosby’s agent drops bombshell on his client in French interview!

Ahead of the Draft, Pat Brisson stuns with this statement in an executive interview:

www.hockeyfeed.com

Just Google Martin McGuire Crosby. The interview was in French which is leading to some different translations but none of them appear to be good.