Post-Game Talk: Pens/Isles Game 1: Home Ice + Good Matchup all for nothing

[Terrapin]

The guys comparing the Pens and Steelers....

They are very similar. Both teams have underachieved for the last several years. They've both lost to inferior talent over and over again. And I believe that neither will ever win another championship with Tomlin and Sullivan as the coaches.

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

Is Malkin d2d?

If "d2d" means decade to decade, then yes.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Everyone of these games will be close. Jarry is the key

I'd wager team structure is key. Also winning the battle of wits between coaches.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Must have been heartbreaking for you to watch Matt Murray in a Tristan Jarry jersey today.

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

If "d2d" means decade to decade, then yes.

That is a bit of stretch

 

[Terrapin]

My son and i noticed the same thing. The weird duck/cringe thing. WTF? I don't recall seeing this before. I hope to hell this isn't a hockey version of the Steve Blass disease. Thank God this offseason will be a buyer's market for Gs....

Not sure I've ever seen that either, but it happened on both of the first two goals.

Bad goaltending, nothing from the PP, and a soft team. Story of the last 5 years

 

[Sidney the Kidney]

That is a bit of stretch

You're right. He'll return now and then, only to re-injure himself again.

 

[Ginormousthumbs]

You're right. He'll return now and then, only to re-injure himself again.

That’s acceptable

 

[Gurglesons]

The guys comparing the Pens and Steelers....

They are very similar. Both teams have underachieved for the last several years. They've both lost to inferior talent over and over again. And I believe that neither will ever win another championship with Tomlin and Sullivan as the coaches.

I think people underrate the Islanders. The Habs series was miserable, but like it was the bubble.

 

[Terrapin]

I think people underrate the Islanders. The Habs series was miserable, but like it was the bubble.

Maybe, but didn't the Isles get swept the series after they swept us? We've had the superior rosters almost every year for the last few years, and we've lost, usually in humiliating fashion.

Side note: This 'nightly sports call' with Bob Pompiani may get the dumbest people on the planet calling in.

 

[JBose7]

Team played structured but below average goaltending will sink every ship. Hopefully we get above average goaltending and we should still be able to win in 5 to 6 games
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[Pittsburgh1776]

Kovacevic: Tristan Jarry's embarrassing performance needs immediate reversal (dkpittsburghsports.com)

I don't have any issue with anything DK wrote here. Those goals are much worse in slow motion.

 

[CascadiaPenguin]

Our goal scorers were Gaudreau, Kapanen, Crosby and our "second pairing" was -5 combined.

Jarry needed to be better...

But Carter, Zucker, Guentzel and Rust need to show up in game two and Marino and Marcus Donkeyf***face needs to not be such a f***ing "female crotch."

See? It is exactly this imagery and metaphor that has been so lacking around these parts for the last month. I almost want to see them lose Tuesday to get the full faucet!

 

[BeatenLikeRentedMule]

No it's not misleading. They just did their damage early, which is totally fine if you end up winning 2 Cups.

I mean sure, try a new coach next year and roll the dice I guess.

That new coach could end up being worse though and could break our playoff streak, being unable to overcome the slough of injuries we always deal with. Replacements always seem better when it's a fresh guy coming in, until reality sets in. Then you pine for what you had.

Wasn't Sutter supposed to save the Flames? How'd that work out?

How does that make Sully different than Bylsma? Dan usually led the team close to the top in the league standings. Hell he even got to a third round in 2013 and 2nd round in 2014 + 2010 along with the Cup in 2009.

Bylsma also never let the team be swept two years in a row. That's more than can be said about Sully.

I don't recall Pens ever being swept until 2019.

 

[Dinfire]

How does that make Sully different than Bylsma? Dan usually led the team close to the top in the league standings. Hell he even got to a third round in 2013 and 2nd round in 2014 + 2010 along with the Cup in 2009.

Bylsma also never let the team be swept two years in a row. That's more than can be said about Sully.

I don't recall Pens ever being swept until 2019.

The Bruins in the ECF in 2013.

 

[Dinfire]

What game did you watch. Those goals they scored certainly didn't look like high danger chances to me. Those goals all looked soft. If we got average NHL goaltending this game doesn't go to OT and Pens win it easily and nobody is bitching. That was a pathetic showing by Jarry. If DeSmith was healthy he would get his shot after that effort. That might of been the worst goaltending of the year. A good highschool goalie stops most of those shots.

Being wide open in the slot is a high danger chance.

 

[AuroraBorealis]

How does that make Sully different than Bylsma? Dan usually led the team close to the top in the league standings. Hell he even got to a third round in 2013 and 2nd round in 2014 + 2010 along with the Cup in 2009.

Bylsma also never let the team be swept two years in a row. That's more than can be said about Sully.

I don't recall Pens ever being swept until 2019.

Huh?

Pens were swept in 2013 against Boston.

And what's Sullivan's second year of getting swept you're referring to? Are you talking about Montreal? The Pens won game 2 there.
Or are you already assuming we'll get swept in this round?

 

[FunkySeeFunkyDo]

Not sure I've ever seen that either, but it happened on both of the first two goals.

Bad goaltending, nothing from the PP, and a soft team. Story of the last 5 years

Uh, we’ve won cups in the last five years.

 

[BeatenLikeRentedMule]

Huh?

Pens were swept in 2013 against Boston.

And what's Sullivan's second year of getting swept you're referring to? Are you talking about Montreal? The Pens won game 2 there.
Or are you already assuming we'll get swept in this round?

I keep thinking they were swept last year. My bad.

They've never been swept in round 1 before 2019.

As for this year, if I were a betting man, I wouldn't hesitate to bet on them being swept or out in 5 after today's results.

You could feel the loss coming as the third period proceeded, especially after the tying goal by NY.

OT was nothing more than a formality for me. Just knew they were toast.

 

[TheSniper26]

Not really a lot to examine here. They generally played pretty well outside of a couple small stretches. Sometimes the goalie just has a rough night. Happens to literally every team.

Something worth keeping in mind: During the back to back runs, they went down 0-1 in a series three different times(WSH and TB series in ‘16, OTT in ‘17). For those worked up, relax and try to keep some perspective here.

 

[heysmilinstrange]

Being wide open in the slot is a high danger chance.

According to Natural Stat Trick, Jarry let in 2 low-danger shots, 1 medium-danger shot, and 1 high-danger shot.

 

[bambamcam4ever]

According to Natural Stat Trick, Jarry let in 2 low-danger shots, 1 medium-danger shot, and 1 high-danger shot.

Was the Palmieri shot considered a high danger chance?

 

[heysmilinstrange]

Was the Palmieri shot considered a high danger chance?

The site doesn't tell you which shots were considered high/medium/low, so I'm not sure since I wasn't able to watch the game. If you scroll down a bit on this link, you can see how they differentiate between types of scoring chances.

 

[metalan2]

If "d2d" means decade to decade, then yes.

Lollllllllllllllll

 

[AuroraBorealis]

I keep thinking they were swept last year. My bad.

They've never been swept in round 1 before 2019.

As for this year, if I were a betting man, I wouldn't hesitate to bet on them being swept or out in 5 after today's results.

You could feel the loss coming as the third period proceeded, especially after the tying goal by NY.

OT was nothing more than a formality for me. Just knew they were toast.

I mean, you and half the board have been making worst case scenario predictions all year. None of those things happened. Ended up not only making the playoffs, but winning the division. The coach who everyone wanted fired should be in the Jack Adams conversation. The team who was supposedly hopeless on the PP finished 4th in the league, thanks to the new PP coach who everyone mocked. Jarry, who was supposedly supposed to sink us after January, went 25-9-3. In the off-season I remember everyone bitching about overpaying for Kapanen. Then he ended up being our best 5v5 player this year, miles ahead of Crosby. Should I even bother mentioning Matheson and Ceci, or is that too low hanging fruit?

Expecting us to lose every game and then being right when it happens is nothing to brag about. That's just pessimism. And it's not an admirable trait, even though this board seems to think so.

So I'll bet on you guys being wrong as usual and say the Penguins will not get swept based on a game where we outchanced/outplayed them and lost in OT.

If you feel confident I'm open to betting $10,000 on it. Pm me and we can arrange it.